tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post7944104402270732080..comments2024-03-23T05:55:29.759-04:00Comments on Bonsai from the Right: The Left Wing Is Getting Even More Unhinged LatelyChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-4431908406705103122010-03-29T13:35:51.176-04:002010-03-29T13:35:51.176-04:00Joe, who we all going to sell everything to? Someb...Joe, who we all going to sell everything to? Somebody is going to have to buy it. Communism doesn't work Joe. Even Jesus' father was a carpenter; are you suggesting that he didn't go to heaven because he had worldly possessions? Well, I guess you aren't suggesting it, but you are suggesting that that is what Jesus says? LOL<br /><br />I'm still waiting for the passage where Jesus says the government should TAKE to GIVE to others (forced charity). You seem to have a good handle on the Bible, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to find that passage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-29835219453929450812010-03-29T13:31:26.661-04:002010-03-29T13:31:26.661-04:00Jesus H. Christ Joe. I wish you had just re-posted...Jesus H. Christ Joe. I wish you had just re-posted your response at one of the earlier topics!<br /><br />Joe, that first question was a repeat of one that I asked even earlier, that I didn't bother to go back and find. My original question was, you said that you planned to retire with some years to spare, and that you deserved it because you earned it. And my response much later was "what if the government said you had to work a couple of years beyond when you wanted to retire, so that you could subsidize someone who didn't work as hard as you, or didn't sacrifice and save but rather spent their savings willy-nilly". Or something to that effect.<br /><br />Because that is what is going to happen Joe. The government is going to tell you that you cannot retire as soon as you wanted, especially for collecting Social Security. They are already talking about it Joe, so it is a fact, even if you deny it.<br /><br />Furthermore, everything the government takes from you in taxes is equivalent to adding years to your work. It's just a fact Joe, I don't know how you even bother denying it! The only explanation I can get is that you have contracted the same brain-debilitating disease that Bruce has. Have you been open-mouth kissing Bruce? LOL<br /><br />As for what you deem to be acceptable or not, I am not going to argue with you on that, because maybe we do or don't have differing opinions as to what our $$ should go to. I bet we DO agree that some legislator in Washington doesn't have a clue as to what is acceptable or not to spend OUR hard-earned money on. I bet you would agree with me that we should keep our $$ and spend it on things, programs, ideas and organizations that we support. Although you seem to approve of the government getting its fingers in all kinds of social engineering, even though they are just a bunch of lawyers who run a good election campaign. I think that is very very very dangerous, and wrong.<br /><br />Joe, we disagree on social contract. Social contract, laws decreed by man, that kind of thing leads to the Holocaust and all kinds of atrocities. You would do well to understand this. If man gives laws, man can justify all kinds of things and make them lawful, or he can take away rights and make natural rights unlawful. That's my opinion, and we have yours, and now everyone knows where everyone stands.<br /><br />Okay Joe, got it, thanks for replying, although you didn't have to. You believe in God and Jesus, but not in organized churches. Sounds like what Christopher said about himself as well.<br /><br />Oh, and Joe, I don't get why the Sybil thing with your posts. This was a nice response. What is your problem that you can't do this all the time?<br /><br />And oh yeah, looks like I proved you wrong. You said I just made some statements, but I did ask you questions, didn't I? How do you like being proven wrong all the time Joe? You must get used to it after a while. LOL ;o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-83952458127904359492010-03-29T08:24:09.046-04:002010-03-29T08:24:09.046-04:00Joe When You Having that Yard Sale? Gotta Stop By ...Joe When You Having that Yard Sale? Gotta Stop By and See The Bargins! Please Dont Sell The Pewter Thingy Id Miss Your Comments/Opinions!ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-37503130643213385002010-03-29T08:12:13.566-04:002010-03-29T08:12:13.566-04:00john, just incase you come back to read this.
fi...john, just incase you come back to read this. <br /><br />first the government isn't making you work longer. It isn't telling you to work more or harder or anything like that. Whether or not you choose to is your choice. but if you want to suggest that the government "forces" that decision upon you because of its choices then you must realise that all government choices do exactly that. So if we follow your logic then any decision by the government to tax you and spend the money forces you to work longer. <br /><br />Now by establishing that, we can then go on to determine what would be good choices and what would be bad choices. I suggest national health care a good thing, war in Iraq a bad thing. I say grants for stem cell research a good thing and the money spent on hetrosexual marriage and abstinence prgrams a bad thing. (neither actually work) <br /><br />As for the morality of a government that doesn't reside in a God. This is an easy one. You'd do well to understand this and possibly have learned it years ago. It resides in the social contract. The ulitmate authority resides in man himself and not in Gods or creators. <br /><br />and my belief in God or Jesus hasn't wavered. I don't believe in church, most Christians or dogma but i believe in God. The God you belive in and the God i believe in our different, but i believe in God. <br /><br />And flipper i don't know about making money, but i know that we should sell all we have and give it to the poor. <br /><br />22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-56500034191369860032010-03-28T21:42:07.023-04:002010-03-28T21:42:07.023-04:00John, I don't know about the passage where Jes...John, I don't know about the passage where Jesus suggests charity is the dominion of the government, but I do know of one where it is suggested that God wants you to succeed and profit, and will teach us if we follow Him and His Commandments:<br /><br />Isaiah 48:17-18<br /><br />Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: <br /><br />17 “ I am the LORD your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. <br />18 Oh, that you had heeded My commandments! Then your peace would have been like a river, And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.Flippernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-32772736287000953002010-03-28T20:30:47.412-04:002010-03-28T20:30:47.412-04:00Here are some of the questions I asked Joe. Will y...Here are some of the questions I asked Joe. Will you agree that I did indeed ask questions? Will you answer them? There's two questions right there! LOL<br />------<br />Do you think it's acceptable for the government to make you work longer? Because, the more taxes they take out that is exactly what they are doing. Think about it Joe. It sure would be easier for me to help others if I had more disposable income. Poverty should not be made a comfortable thing with people getting everything they need. People should be encouraged to lift themselves up, not allowed to live in poverty. Look at Detroit sir! The model city of The Great Society. Sheesh.<br />26 MARCH, 2010 14:25 <br /><br />do you ... know chapter and verse where Jesus says charity is the dominion of the government? Furthermore, how does charity apply to people like Joe who don't believe in God any more? If you don't believe in ANY God, then why would another person be your responsibility? Take God out of the government, and why is it the government's obligation to worry about any other person? Where does the moral authority come in Joe? The government, by stealing my property and choosing winners and losers in the free market, are morally bankrupt. To do it under the guise of "helping people" is even worse.<br />26 MARCH, 2010 11:57 <br /><br />we must be the only country in the world whose "poor" is suffering from an obesity epidemic. Quite the oxymoron wouldn't you agree? LOL<br />26 MARCH, 2010 09:41 <br /><br />Get on it Joe, you got some homework! LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-86172041995397285552010-03-28T20:28:15.124-04:002010-03-28T20:28:15.124-04:00Joe, you should be ashamed of yourself. You should...Joe, you should be ashamed of yourself. You should at the very least be ashamed of the way our President treated a foreign leader and dignitary. This guy Obama has no class. He will bow to anyone, but won't have dinner with a Jewish person? Sounds like a muslim to me. LOL, on top of all independents you can kiss the Jewish vote goodbye.<br /><br />Joe, still using the tea bagger bit? That's a little juvenile isn't it Joe? Once again Joe elevates the conversation to approximately 3rd grade name-calling. Stay classy Joe.<br /><br />As for the "racist name callers", that has been dis-proven, no? After all, Jesse Jackson Jr. filmed the whole thing, and there is a $1 million reward for proof of that. Seems there were plants, and they are called Hypocrats in Congress that made up the stories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-78965902611249251662010-03-28T19:24:02.068-04:002010-03-28T19:24:02.068-04:00John, as for the plant bit, that came after the Te...John, as for the plant bit, that came after the Tea Baggers accused the racist name callers of being leftwing plants. Get your timeline right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-45090623033769264052010-03-28T19:21:20.379-04:002010-03-28T19:21:20.379-04:00you didn't ask any questions just made stateme...you didn't ask any questions just made statements. <br /><br />the Israel flap. i think they got what was coming too them. don't disrespect our vice president and you won't get the smackdown. Have you read anything about Israel? its one of the most double dealing sum bitches in the world.<br /><br />Our Friends, as the right would have you believe have committed more act of espionage against us than any other nation and have infiltrated us with more spies than Russia ever thought to. They've done the same to Britain too despite our support basically keeping them from constant war. <br /><br />Personally i don't trust Israel and never will, they aren't friends, they are only out for themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-47231507251180655522010-03-28T08:37:39.655-04:002010-03-28T08:37:39.655-04:00Joe, read through the comments, I know you have, a...Joe, read through the comments, I know you have, and you know that we have renounced it. You regressives are the ones making excuses and talking about plants and stuff like that. Grow up sir.<br /><br />Joe, are you going to just ignore my valid points? I have addressed what I could of your points, and I see you responding to other things and people but not to me. Are you afraid of addressing my points Joe? I don't understand what the problem is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-77041730403930366462010-03-28T08:29:38.449-04:002010-03-28T08:29:38.449-04:00Wow, have any of you anti-abortion conservatives g...Wow, have any of you anti-abortion conservatives gone to "your" site, the Army of God. http://www.armyofgod.com/ <br /><br />The first words are why the killing of abortion doctors is justified followed up by "American Hero Scott Roeder" <br /><br />Hey Chris do you renounce that violence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-8668783880948124932010-03-27T22:12:10.687-04:002010-03-27T22:12:10.687-04:00MORE THOUGHTS ON LIBERAL POLITICAL VIOLENCE
Sha...MORE THOUGHTS ON LIBERAL POLITICAL VIOLENCE<br /> Share Post PrintMarch 27, 2010 Posted by John at 7:23 PM<br /><br />The Democrats have tried to change the subject away from their health care debacle by claiming that conservatives are threatening violence against them. Their complaints are pathetic where they are not out-and-out lies (e.g., Clyburn and Lewis), and they have taken a lot of well-deserved criticism. It is liberals, not conservatives, who rely on ad hominem attacks, outrageous allegations and violent imagery. We talked about this on our radio show today, and several callers reminded us of a particularly sorry episode of liberal violence that, for some reason, has not gotten much attention: the 2008 Republican convention in St. Paul.<br /><br />I attended the convention and remember the terrorist acts that were carried out by anti-Republican protesters very well. They threw bricks through the windows of buses, sending elderly convention delegates to the hospital. They dropped bags of sand off highway overpasses onto vehicles below. Fortunately, no one was killed.<br /><br />These were anti-Bush and anti-Republican protesters. Is it a stretch to think that some of them, at least, may have been inspired by over-the-top, hateful attacks on the Bush administration by Democratic Congressmen, DNC Chairman Howard Dean, Michael Moore, who was a guest of honor at the Democrats' own convention, various show business personalities, and many other leading liberal figures? I don't think so. We haven't seen that sort of hate campaign since the Democrats went after Abraham Lincoln. It seems unlikely that none of the "protesters" who tried to commit murder were inspired by those liberal voices.<br /><br />Yet, hardly anyone seems to be aware of the violence that took place in 2008. At most, the story was treated with a ho-hum attitude in the press. For some reason, political violence was not a concern less than two years ago. Yet today, we can hardly imagine what would happen if a group of tea partiers were to drop sandbags off a highway overpass, trying to kill motorists below. Liberal reporters' heads would explode. Yet this is exactly what anti-Republican Party protesters did in 2008, and no one cared. To my knowledge, not a single Democratic politician condemned this anti-Republican violence or attempted in any way to distance the Democratic Party from it.<br /><br />Keep that in mind next time you hear a Democrat whining about the Republican effort to "fire Nancy Pelosi."Flippernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-25549869957397543272010-03-27T19:12:02.018-04:002010-03-27T19:12:02.018-04:00Chris, i renounce anyone who espouses violence. Th...Chris, i renounce anyone who espouses violence. There is no need for violence. <br /><br />As for personal choices about their own bodies, i don't wish for anyone to choose abortion but i understand that it is not my decision. Just as i don't care if you eat, drink, smoke or anything yourself to death. Not my body, not my problem. Don't do it to me and we're good. <br /><br />No i will give you that alot of the left has a problem with those last couple issues. They are pro-choice and anti-fatty foods. Cognitive dissidence there. Makes no sense to me. Ban trans fats and salt, but allow abortion. Huh???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-79155809420555915992010-03-27T17:29:31.248-04:002010-03-27T17:29:31.248-04:00Jay-Ney We Rest OUR Case and God Speed Back To...Jay-Ney We Rest OUR Case and God Speed Back To Hooterville! Dont Forget Those Meds!ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-11929836712657536572010-03-27T16:52:29.437-04:002010-03-27T16:52:29.437-04:00Palin asked for it. No one cares when someone thre...Palin asked for it. No one cares when someone threatens you neo-cons. I know I have done more then my share of threats that's for sure.Jay-Neyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09750826070107802852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-62621527536533491872010-03-27T13:03:14.832-04:002010-03-27T13:03:14.832-04:00Joe do you renounce the left for calling for the d...Joe do you renounce the left for calling for the death of Trigg Palin? Do you renounce the killing of 40 million babies and the death threats to Karl Rove?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-74466686438672733142010-03-27T12:57:30.884-04:002010-03-27T12:57:30.884-04:00Joe, do you renounce this phone message to Judy Sc...Joe, do you renounce this phone message to Judy Schmidt of Ohio?<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjA8lrSi3rQ&feature=player_embeddedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-23424298653627045812010-03-27T12:19:31.010-04:002010-03-27T12:19:31.010-04:00Chaos , Name Calling and NEVER Let A CRISIS Go To ...Chaos , Name Calling and NEVER Let A CRISIS Go To Waste are The MATRA of The Progressive Movement and When Caught Blame it on Those Pesky Citizens Expressing There OPINIONs Most Notablly Those Tea Party Citizens!<br /><br />First Effected By Socialized Insurance Seniors Who Almost Immediately Start Losing Care! Can Not Take 500 Billion Out With Out CUT Backs.<br /><br />Isreal Is On Their Own and Thats a Fact! Unlike This Administration If Threatened By Terrorist They Will Act to Protect Themselves at Which Time This Administration Will More Than Likely Condemn Them For Acting In Their Interest!<br /><br />Any Lib Out There Got A Handle on This Administrations Forgein Policy Other Than Joining Europe in Their Attempts to Become Third World Bankrupt Nations?<br /><br />Citizens HAVE Right To Be Angry With This Administration BUT Violence of Any Kind Is Wrong Period!<br /><br />Some Above is Off Point OOPs!ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-9783585118611161762010-03-27T10:11:56.796-04:002010-03-27T10:11:56.796-04:00Joe you forget that so far every "right wing ...Joe you forget that so far every "right wing attack" has ended up as left wingers in the end. Once bitten twice shy. What do you have as proof for your theory? Joe when has it been a right winger in the end? I've given numerous examples of the left wing trying to make it look like right wingers did the damage. When has it ever been the other way around? You like the guilty until proven inocent and we follow the laws. Where is the sorry for blamming the right for the plan crash terrorist,the suicide left wing nut case we got blammed for,the Pentagon shooter,the left wing prof that shot up the school. Where are you on the left?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-68154217492538258302010-03-27T10:03:39.459-04:002010-03-27T10:03:39.459-04:00Not true Joe. Al, Chris and myself have repeatedly...Not true Joe. Al, Chris and myself have repeatedly denounced any violence on this blog many times. It's you left-wingers that have tried to say that only right-wingers have extremists, and as I recall you started the whole "plant theory", with Jay-Ney, but I might have my timeline screwed up there. Anyway, I remember you starting that BS first. And you continue to use the "tea-bagger" slur, that's not very nice at all, but I'm sure it makes you feel like a big man so I understand why you continue to use it.<br /><br />Joe, why don't you answer any of my points? Instead you come on here and accuse us of condoning violence against our fellow man? Another not-very-nice thing to do Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-16221691854642210252010-03-27T09:47:12.001-04:002010-03-27T09:47:12.001-04:00Good job Chris, you found a lefty wacko. He's ...Good job Chris, you found a lefty wacko. He's a nut and should be dealt with by the proper authorities. That is if he's not really a rightwing plant. (using Tea bagger excuses now aren't I?)<br /><br />Now if you don't condone things like this why haven't you condemned the brick throwing blogger, the Tea Party name callers. All i see is you denying they existed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-3886590920896190082010-03-27T09:04:35.385-04:002010-03-27T09:04:35.385-04:00Great post Chris. Furthermore, Obama buddies up to...Great post Chris. Furthermore, Obama buddies up to Hugo Chavez and Ahmadenijad, but look how he treats the Jewish leaders. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but more and more it looks like Obama is seriously an enemy to freedom, and freedom-loving countries:<br /><br />http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/03/we-are-all-bibi-netanyahu-now.html<br /><br />Saturday, March 27, 2010<br />We Are All Bibi Netanyahu Now<br />The reaction to Obama's treatment of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ("Bibi") Netanyahu was as strong if not stronger than I have seen in the comments here and elsewhere in the blogosphere on any other issue. (I didn't let through a number of over-the-top comments.)<br /><br />Why this reaction? I bet a lot of the people having this reaction only had heard of Bibi Netanyahu in passing on the news.<br /><br />Who would care if our President left a foreign leader to wait in the White House while the President supposedly went to have dinner with his family? Who would care if our President broke protocol by refusing to be photographed and hold a press conference with a foreign leader? Who would care if that foreign leader left tail tucked between his legs, humiliated at home at the treatment by the leader of the free world?<br /><br />Part of it certainly is that the foreign leader in question was the leader of Israel, which is tremendously popular with Americans. In Israel the clear majority of Americans see a democratic nation surrounded by implacable enemies who also are our enemies, doing what it takes to survive and thrive. In so many historical, religious and political ways Israel is our kindred spirit, more than just one among many nations.<br /><br />But that cannot explain the intensity of the reaction. Obama has shown disrespect for our British friends, with whom we share an even more intense historical relationship. There are very, very few countries in the world whose soldiers would die for us, and Britain is one of those countries. Yet the reaction to Obama's treatment of Britain has been muted.<br /><br />I think the reaction to Obama's treatment of Bibi Netanyahu hits home because it was so personal in nature, and because it epitomized how the American people have been treated by Obama and the Democrats, with arrogance and disdain.<br /><br />We have seen this attitude since the Inauguration, when Obama and the crowd treated George W. Bush with disrespect, in the smears by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and other leading Democrats against health care protesters, in the daily attacks by the left-wing blogs and mainstream media against the Tea Party members, in the treatment of Sarah Palin and Trig Palin, in the bribes and budgetary chicanery used to pass a health care bill opposed by a significant majority of the population, and in the disgusting use of the race card to stifle legitimate political dissent.<br /><br />In Bibi Netanyahu we see something we have lost in our leader, an unflinching sense of national destiny, an unapologetic pride in who we are and why we are, and a willingness to stand up to tyrants and neighborhood bullies regardless of the price.<br /><br />To see a leader like Bibi Netanyahu treated so shabbily by someone who treats us the same way was too much to bear.<br /><br />The story of how Obama treated Bib Netanyahu at the White House was a familiar story, which is why it has caused such a strong reaction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com