tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post5154902361876828527..comments2024-03-23T05:55:29.759-04:00Comments on Bonsai from the Right: Who Does This Health Care Bill Serve?Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-17549068709506138952009-12-25T19:48:15.247-05:002009-12-25T19:48:15.247-05:00The right wing built this great nation inspite of ...The right wing built this great nation inspite of you liberals. You libs gave us baby killings,dead babies are a commodity because of you libs. Riots are all libs,ELF,Cap and Tax,....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-72521254384320001692009-12-25T06:48:59.359-05:002009-12-25T06:48:59.359-05:00Anonymous, what has the right done for "we th...Anonymous, what has the right done for "we the people?"<br /><br />I can't name one damn thing.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-9338188127285114052009-12-23T08:41:46.120-05:002009-12-23T08:41:46.120-05:00Obama already has his union job when he gets out o...Obama already has his union job when he gets out of office. The dems are doing all the wrong things and we the people are getting pissed. The left wing ain't too happy either. This bill is no good for we the people. It's for the unions and big gov't/big business. If the Republicans did this shit the country would be in flames from the riotsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-12700267434798363222009-12-23T07:57:53.575-05:002009-12-23T07:57:53.575-05:00Bruce Libs did not think Tea Partys were a BIG De...Bruce Libs did not think Tea Partys were a BIG Deal and to you they still aint,BUT, Bruce Free Citizens Do Not like being told by ANYBODY,including Government what they MUST DO with their Personnel Incomes or LIFES. Thats why this NATION was formed and its called FREEDOM Bruce. Nobama Care is not to Socialize Medicene Bruce it is to Socialize Insurance and a COUPLE years down the ROAD when the CRAP in this BILL comes into the LIGHT,Freedom will take ONE BIG step Backwards!<br /><br /> This Bill had to be Passed in the DARK of Night with Literally Bribing members of the Senate. Why is it SO crutial to this Congress and ADMINISTRATION to Pass this Bill NOW just before Christmas. Could be cause Citizens have much on there mind NOW and once again this is just GET it Through while Citizens are BUSY! When all is said and done the way the LIBS have and are HANDELING this Procedure,the BILL wont PASS the STINK test with Citizens,BRUCE and thats a FACT!ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-71191730919433657942009-12-23T07:56:42.177-05:002009-12-23T07:56:42.177-05:00Posted by Erick Erickson
The Senate Republican...Posted by Erick Erickson <br /><br /><br />The Senate Republicans failed to ever make a fuss about the individual mandate. If I had to guess, it would be because Bob Bennett of Utah, who whispers in Mitch McConnell’s ear more than any other Senator, is a huge proponent of the individual mandate and, as luck would have it, is about to get a Democratic health care bill that looks almost identical to his own Wyden-Bennett compromise plan. As an added bonus, he can vote against it and still see it pass.<br /><br />Nonetheless, there are serious issues about the constitutionality of the individual mandate. The federal constitution sets forth the limited powers of the federal government and not one of those powers seems to suggest that the Congress of the United States can compel the citizens of the nation to buy certain products.<br /><br />Jim DeMint and John Ensign are going to force a vote on the issue. Democrats will be forced to take a position on whether or not the federal government can force individuals to buy products on pain of criminal penalty.<br /><br />“I am incredibly concerned that the Democrats’ proposed individual mandate provision takes away too much freedom and choice from Americans across the country,” said Senator Ensign. “As an American, I felt the obligation to stand up for the individual freedom of every citizen to make their own decision on this issue. I don’t believe Congress has the legal authority to force this mandate on its citizens.” <br /><br />“Forcing every American to purchase a product is absolutely inconsistent with our Constitution and the freedoms our Founding Fathers hoped to protect,” said Senator DeMint. “This is not at all like car insurance, you can choose not to drive but Americans will have no choice whether to buy government-approved insurance. This is nothing more than a bailout and takeover of insurance companies. We’re forcing Americans to buy insurance under penalty of law and then Washington bureaucrats will then dictate what these companies can sell to Americans. This is not liberty, it is tyranny of good intentions by elites in Washington who think they can plan our lives better than we can.” <br /><br />Are you really that dumb Bruce or is this your liberal magic trick? Just keep telling us that we don't see what is in the bill or calling Chris a liar when it is you that lied about reading the bill. Go back to your own failed blog.Epic Feilknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-82013404331189411262009-12-23T07:23:39.711-05:002009-12-23T07:23:39.711-05:00Bruce now you are putting words into my mouth agai...Bruce now you are putting words into my mouth again you kliar. Now you say I said they will go to Prison? It is a mandate by the Fed that everyone buy insurance. Read what I posted Dec.22 at 6pm. Bruce one question, what if the fine isn't paid? Oh then it is a IRS problem and yes you will go to jail/fed prison if you refuse to pay your taxes. That is what they do to people that refuse to pay their taxes. Unless you are in the Obama admin that is. You don't have a clue how the real world works do you Bruce? How much pot did you smoke as a kid again? Or are you still smoking it you LIAR. And I wasn't the one that said they looked through the whole bill. You were the liar on that one two little buddy. Go back to playing scratch and sniff with yourself.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-90157437871114957982009-12-23T04:37:26.955-05:002009-12-23T04:37:26.955-05:00So, Chris, I guess you didn't read the bill. ...So, Chris, I guess you didn't read the bill. The only punishment I could find is if you don't purchase insurance from the private market, there is a fine that can be levied against your tax payment.<br /><br />Now, you should retract your lie about anyone going to prison for not purchasing insurance.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-37439900069404064952009-12-23T04:35:35.706-05:002009-12-23T04:35:35.706-05:00Al, there is a fine in teh bill, but no imprisonme...Al, there is a fine in teh bill, but no imprisonment that I can find.<br /><br />Second, Al, it isn't government insurance in the current iteration of the bill. The insurance is being purchased in the private market, Al.<br /><br />I suppose if enough people don't pay, the IRS will get a bonanza or fees into the federal coffers.<br /><br />Really, you think there's going to be a revolution over health care? I guess it could happen, but I wouldn't count on it.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-82651608141334477352009-12-22T18:16:18.413-05:002009-12-22T18:16:18.413-05:00Bruce Heres a Thought, What if a Large Number of C...Bruce Heres a Thought, What if a Large Number of Citizens refuse to get Health Care through the Government, what happens to NOBAMA Health Care? What happens to the Citizens who DO NOT want to Pay? Something has GOT to Happen to them Bruce, or if ENOUGH dont get the Government Insurance, WHO Pays for it? Trust me Bruce SOMETHING will Happen to Citizens who have LOST their Freedom to Choose and REFUSE to PAY!<br /> Did not OUR Nation at its Birth have a Boston Tea Party to Protest OUR being TAXED by the British. Just a Thought.ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-66258818072649768362009-12-22T18:04:10.777-05:002009-12-22T18:04:10.777-05:00Bruce why would you lie about reading the 2,700 pa...Bruce why would you lie about reading the 2,700 page bill? I hope that proves to you that you are a liar and that it is in the bill. The verbage doesn't have to say that you will go to jail. That is the job of the courts to decide the punishment. But we know that it will be illegal to not buy coverage. So Bruce how long did it take you to read the bill? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-5476146957436248512009-12-22T18:00:31.073-05:002009-12-22T18:00:31.073-05:00A congressional analyst says the Founding Fathers ...A congressional analyst says the Founding Fathers would be appalled to learn that for the first time in history, the federal government was going to mandate that all Americans purchase health insurance.<br /><br /> <br />The "individual responsibility" provision in Section 1501 of the Senate healthcare bill (H.R. 3590) requires anyone who fails to buy a "qualifying" health insurance plan to pay an annual tax penalty of $750 per adult family member and $375 per child, or up to a maximum penalty of $2,250 per family.<br /> <br />Brian Darling, director of Senate relations at The Heritage Foundation, says the individual mandate may violate the U.S. Constitution.<br /> <br />"The insurance industry now will have a federal mandate that everybody has to use their product, so you can look at the insurance industry as a whole as a beneficiary of this bill because all Americans will be mandated to buy that product, to be a service, which is unprecedented in our country," he contends. "And it may be unconstitutional to allow the federal government to mandate that people buy a certain product. I can't imagine our Founding Fathers wanted to empower a limited federal government to do what they're doing right now."<br /> <br />The House version of the healthcare bill also requires all Americans to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty. Under that legislation, if American citizens fail to pay that penalty, they could face up to a year in jail.<br /><br /><br /><br />In your opinion, what is the most troublesome aspect of proposed healthcare reform coming from Capitol Hill?<br /><br />In a legal memorandum published earlier this month, The Heritage Foundation charges that the individual mandate outlined in the legislation "takes congressional power and control to a striking new level."<br /><br /> <br />"Its defenders have struggled to justify the mandate by analogizing it to existing federal laws and court decisions," says that memorandum, "but their efforts do not withstand serious scrutiny. An individual mandate to enter into a contract with or buy a particular product from a private party, with tax penalties to enforce it, is unprecedented -- not just in scope but in kind -- and unconstitutional as a matter of first principles and under any reasonable reading of judicial precedents."<br /><br /> <br /><br />Heritage suggests that if the constitutionality of the individual mandate is put to the test, it is "very unlikely" that the Supreme Court would either extend current constitutional doctrines, or devise new ones, to uphold "this new and unprecedented claim of federal power." The memo also accuses sponsors of the current healthcare bills of using a "gimmick" to make the personal mandate appear to revenue-enhancing instead of an unconstitutional tax.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-82695650005676445972009-12-22T17:54:17.592-05:002009-12-22T17:54:17.592-05:00Bruce Court Reporter Is that a Government Job or P...Bruce Court Reporter Is that a Government Job or Private Sector which you seem to HATE so Much? You KNOW Profit,Wages,Bennies and all that Capitolism!<br /><br />Hey Bruce you LISTEN to Olbermann and dont worry about the TRUTH you know when its NOT a LIE! Feel like I got to Explain that part to YA!ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-76948735978153885622009-12-22T15:52:44.275-05:002009-12-22T15:52:44.275-05:00Actually, Chris, I assumed since you made the clai...Actually, Chris, I assumed since you made the claim that people would go to jail for not getting insurance you already knew the answer to your own question.<br /><br />As a former court reporter, I heard attorneys say many times, don't ask a question you don't already know the answer to.<br /><br />This is the problem with people like you, Chris. You run around making claims like this and you don't even know for sure if they're true. You are in the same category as Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin.<br /><br />You just say shit because you think it sounds good to you. You don't know and don't care if it's the truth.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-30458615770852356182009-12-22T15:15:38.027-05:002009-12-22T15:15:38.027-05:00Bruce The Voters are Going to punish Republicans i...Bruce The Voters are Going to punish Republicans in November. Alot of the Republicans will get Elected and have to FIX this LIBERAL lead Congress! Now thats PUNISHMENT!~ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-18739633757852924482009-12-22T14:22:13.038-05:002009-12-22T14:22:13.038-05:00Anon, thank you for your comment and for calling R...Anon, thank you for your comment and for calling Reid. You are a great American. I wish there were more people that would post their comments. Keep us informed with what happens when he calls you back if you would?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-36057101381816127112009-12-22T14:19:44.892-05:002009-12-22T14:19:44.892-05:00Bruce it might take me a while since there is 2,70...Bruce it might take me a while since there is 2,700 pages to go thru and read. But you knew that and that is why you ask for it. And that is why the bill is 2,700 pages so they can hide everything in it for a while. And don't worry Bruce I'm sure you will find a way to blame Republicans for this dumbass bill. But the Dems own it lock,stock and barrel.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-88318961115965279992009-12-22T14:00:55.238-05:002009-12-22T14:00:55.238-05:00Chris, I do agree with you about one thing, the De...Chris, I do agree with you about one thing, the Dems own health care now. So, if it turns out well, then they get all the credit, right? <br /><br />If it turns out badly, which I'm sure Republicans will do their best to make sure it does, Republicans get all the blame for doing nothing when they could have gotten on board.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-12855434603303253112009-12-22T13:51:00.308-05:002009-12-22T13:51:00.308-05:00Chris, so where is the language that says anyone w...Chris, so where is the language that says anyone will go to jail if they don't buy health insurance?<br /><br />You say it's in there. Show it to me.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-19496340801112833722009-12-22T11:50:21.544-05:002009-12-22T11:50:21.544-05:00Chris, I read your blog often and for the first ti...Chris, I read your blog often and for the first time I am posting out of sheer frustration. I called Harry Reid's office this morning and asked of his aide the following questions:<br /><br />1. I heard Senator Reid in a speech yesterday say that every 10 minutes two people die in the U.S. for lack of proper health care. Where did he get that information?<br /><br />2. Why does Senator Reid call a bribe a "compromise"?<br /><br />At this point, his aide said "Maam, maam, I'm not here to go back and forth with you. If you have a comment, I will write it down and let the senator know (in a very smartass tone).<br /><br />So I said "Okay, here is the message I would like you to give to the senator."<br /><br />And as I started to talk, this progressive, little piece of **** aide started talking over me, saying "Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, yup, that's right, uh huh, uh huh, uh, yup that's right, uh huh, uh huh." He kept saying this nonstop, as I was speaking making his point that he wasn't listening.<br />At one point, I stopped for about 10 seconds, and he kept on "uh huh, uh huh, uh huh ........" <br /><br />I had to stop because it was useless. I ended by saying "It's not a surprise that Harry Reid would have someone responding like this in his office. His response? "Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh."<br /><br />When I got off, I just sat there, confirming what I have known for the last year. We the People have lost our country to these so-called "progressives." There is no listening to us anymore. The tyrants are here.....<br /><br />These are the people who have set themselves up to be our lords and masters. We have to stop them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-62278843907162273432009-12-22T07:58:47.591-05:002009-12-22T07:58:47.591-05:00Isn't that great Bruce you give all credit to ...Isn't that great Bruce you give all credit to liberals. Sorry little buddy but I think you need to give facts and not anicdotal evidance for your belief. Nice try though.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-32085858490046130892009-12-22T07:58:37.991-05:002009-12-22T07:58:37.991-05:00Bruce I Heard your HERO Olbermann SAY that the PLA...Bruce I Heard your HERO Olbermann SAY that the PLAN was SO BAD he would in fact go to JAIL Rather than PAY the Fine for NOT having Nobama Health Care!s you say if YOU cannot Believe Dobermann who CAN you Believe!<br /><br />If Liberals LOVE this Country why are they ATTEMPTING to Change us to a Member of the WORLD COMMUNITY Bruce and actualy bring us DOWN to their Levels!<br /><br />If Liberals Love this Country WHY have they ALLOWED their Policies to TAKE Large once Great Cities and Destroy them to the POINT you cannot TELL them from Bagadad! At least IRAQ is a Declared Area of War. Large Cities in OUR Country are NOT unless YOU Count the LIB Policies that got them there!Look Bruce at ANY Large City and YOU see what AWAITS the COUNTRY if the LIBS are ALLOWED to GO on there Merry WAY! If LIBS loved there COUNTRY How would they let POLITICS/Agenda be more IMPORTANT than the Citizens they say they are CONCERNED about.LOOK what LIBS have DONE to the Minorities/Poor Bruce,if you think thats Exceptable you SIR are a BLAZING MORON!<br /><br />Bruce What Military Branch did you serve in,JUST Wondering?ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-82839105642516466522009-12-22T07:56:34.642-05:002009-12-22T07:56:34.642-05:00Bruce you are so full of crap. You went through al...Bruce you are so full of crap. You went through all 2000 pgs of the bill and because you didn't find the words jailed or imprioned that means it doesn't exist? First off you didn;t read the bill as you are on these blogs all day and night. And second just because they didn't use you words doesn't mean its not in their. The bill will never have a punishment in it. It will have a mandate for insurance,and it does,but it is not the job of the bill to give a sentance for not following the law. So stop trying to bullshit us with your lies about reading the bill and your stupid spines on everything the Democrats do. I don't know why you are so happy. The bill doesn't do one thing it promised to do for you either. A lot of people are going to get screwed because of the Democrats bill. This Bill is 100% Democrat. The Dems hold the bag on this bad bill and now they can't blame the Republicans for effing up our healthcare. Not one, NOT ONE Republican voted for this bill. Don't forget it.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-80626902499208279752009-12-22T07:49:57.490-05:002009-12-22T07:49:57.490-05:00Part 2
The house didn't have electricity u...Part 2<br /> The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.<br /><br /> He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.<br /><br /> Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-66990864595092792932009-12-22T07:49:34.631-05:002009-12-22T07:49:34.631-05:00Chris, thanks for asking.
Contained within this m...Chris, thanks for asking.<br /><br />Contained within this missive is a list of the great things liberals have done for America.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A Day in the Life of Joe Republican<br /><br />A story floating around the internet...<br /><br /> Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.<br /><br /> All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.<br /><br /> He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.<br /><br /> In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.<br /><br /> Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.<br /><br /> He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.<br /><br /> Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.<br /><br /> If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.<br /><br /> It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.<br /><br /> Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.<br /><br /> Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.<br /><br /> He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-63608517337577420042009-12-22T07:46:15.279-05:002009-12-22T07:46:15.279-05:00Bruce you said,"Al, Liberals are patriots. Yo...Bruce you said,"Al, Liberals are patriots. You Moron! Liberals built this country, fought for this country and will long after you are gone." What great thing have the liberals done? What have they built that lasted and was good? Liberals are the destroyers not builders. And thats not just this country but every country. Look at the most liberal countries and you will see a country about to go bankrupt.Greec,Italy and all the communist countries you liberals love so much.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.com