tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post7201113579814778360..comments2024-03-23T05:55:29.759-04:00Comments on Bonsai from the Right: Occupy Wall Street Is Fizzing OutChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-200964308106253272011-10-23T23:41:47.329-04:002011-10-23T23:41:47.329-04:00Bruce, I never claimed we were, (we are however be...Bruce, I never claimed we were, (we are however being directed to a socialist society, under Obama) as stated before, those are nearly 35% of the OWS peoples demands.<br />And as stated before are you prepared if these people get answers they seek?<br />So you asked me to define Marxism, that is the definition. You asked, I brought forth the definition.<br /><br />So then you would say the Citizens United decision makes that even easier with unlimited contribution by corporation, the same can be said of Unions then, correct? Because thats what the ruling was also about.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-90953943005197391802011-10-23T21:41:56.845-04:002011-10-23T21:41:56.845-04:00Well, Mark, NO, using that definition, then you ha...Well, Mark, NO, using that definition, then you have your head up your ass.<br /><br />If anything, it's corporations that are running this country and we have to take the money out of politics entirely.<br /><br />Corporations are buying politicians and Citizens United makes that even easier with unlimited contributions.<br /><br />We are so far from Marxism by that definition that your suggestion that we are going in that direction has made me lose what little respect I had for your intelligence.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-17121566934837371402011-10-23T12:16:37.465-04:002011-10-23T12:16:37.465-04:00Marxism- An economic system in which the means of ...Marxism- An economic system in which the means of production are commonly owned and federally controlled cooperatively and in which private property would be superseded by co-operative ownership. Eventually socialism would give way to a communist stage of a classless, stateless system based on common ownership and free access to products of business through a central political state.<br /><br />Recent polls show over 1/3 of them want revolutionary Marxism. Now not all of them are for this, granted, but the overwhelming message coming from them is in that direction of 'abolish Capitalism'Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-21419743025552844172011-10-22T22:40:05.595-04:002011-10-22T22:40:05.595-04:00Define what you mean by Marxism.
The OWS moveme...Define what you mean by Marxism. <br /><br />The OWS movement has NOTHING to do with Marxism as best I can tell.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-17699280571118981702011-10-22T11:37:48.757-04:002011-10-22T11:37:48.757-04:00Please provide some historical facts to back up yo...Please provide some historical facts to back up your comment of "tea party infiltrators."<br />So when have you seen on the news or anywhere else, a Tea Party Patriot defecating on a cop car, using illegal drug or stealing at a rally, or being accused of rape of a handicapped person (or any person), or even NOW providing alcohol to an 11 year old? http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/29545387/detail.html<br /><br />There are many accounts of misbehavior going on at these Marxist sit-ins.<br /><br />And you know full well the reason the police have used these tactics is because some of them there have refused to heed law enforcement demands to move their protest to another area (off the Brooklyn bridge) and the protesters fought back with the police.<br />You refuse to comply with law enforcement request, you'll pay the consequences.<br /><br />Since you tried to answer some of my question, here is a biggy one for you that I have asked 3 times now... "Are you prepared to live in a Marxist society" if they get the answers to their demands?<br /><br />And did you take notice of Obama fundraising data? He is in with Wall Street.... so they should take this to Washington DC!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-9782890976183309542011-10-21T16:23:09.584-04:002011-10-21T16:23:09.584-04:00Mark, I didn't answer your questions because t...Mark, I didn't answer your questions because they have nothing whatsoever to do with the OWS protests.<br /><br />Any misbehavior no doubt the work or provocateurs and tea party infiltrators.<br /><br />The OWS protesters have been peaceful and well behaved. The police have been the ones misbehaving, pepper spraying completely innocent people, beating innocent people. The police are the criminals, at least in New York City. In some other cities the police have actually done their jobs respectfully.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-42212148771422786172011-10-20T20:00:41.248-04:002011-10-20T20:00:41.248-04:00Like I said, Bruce, you all should be taking this ...Like I said, Bruce, you all should be taking this up in Washington.<br />''President Obama has still managed to raise far more money this year from the financial and banking sector than Mitt Romney or any other Republican presidential candidate, according to new fundraising data.<br />http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/?p=45741Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-74124775671430534142011-10-20T16:56:30.017-04:002011-10-20T16:56:30.017-04:00Brucie, you dodged my questions.
Be a stand up guy...Brucie, you dodged my questions.<br />Be a stand up guy and give us an answer to my questions.<br /><br />I don't listen to Rush, I work when he is on.<br /><br />Fox? I have actually caught them napping at the switch. One issue they fell asleep at the switch, (referring to your comment, "The banksters stole this country blind") AND something I posted on 2 years ago was this: <br />-The Community Reinvestment Act and how its amendments, that were enacted by Clinton, forced banks to lower their lending practices by giving mortgages to moderate and low income people on NON-STATED INCOME LOANS! “Cutting the Red Tape”<br /> <br />Eventually people couldn't afford their mortgages anymore and defaulted on the loans.<br />Some banks knew back then, that this was coming and sold them off as security backs. <br />Perfectly legal under the Community Reinvestment Act.<br />The Clinton Admin KNEW that a lot of homeowners would default, but he signed the amended act in to law, anyways.<br />You & the Marxist want to blame WS, when you should be blaming The Federal Government.<br /><br />"stopping the rise of Fascism" <br />First off, Fascism lies on the left side of the political spectrum, along with Socialism and Marxism. They are Oligarchies <br />Nearly 40% at the protest have stated they want a rise of Marxism.<br /><br />So I ask you once again:<br />Are you prepared to live in a Marxist society?<br />Do you approve of defecating on a cop car?<br />Do you approve of the illegal drug use going on at these "sit in’s"<br />Do you approve of the theft that is taking place at OWS?<br />AND Do you approve of a rape of a handicapped 19 year old at one of these protest?<br /><br />THEY ARE SCUM!!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-12190365642163964422011-10-20T09:42:44.807-04:002011-10-20T09:42:44.807-04:00Mark, Mark, Mark, please turn off Rush Limbags and...Mark, Mark, Mark, please turn off Rush Limbags and Fox. <br /><br />What OWS is protesting is the largest income inequality in our history. The banksters stole this country blind and they are reaping huge economic rewards for stealing our money.<br /><br />Wall Street has been defecating on the American people of decades. <br /><br />This movement is calling for stopping the rise of Fascism, the confluence of government and corporate rule across the world.<br /><br />Here's some polling that really matters.<br /><br />"The poll asked people to identify which faction of government best represents their views. 30% identified with Democrats, while 17% said Republicans and 12% went with the Tea Party. So if you’re looking for a left-right bias, it leans slightly to the left (30% left to 29% right), assuming the designations of Democrats to the left; Republicans and Tea Partiers to the right. A whopping 39% of the respondents identified with no party or the always-popular “other” designation. "<br /><br />http://www.mediaite.com/online/time-poll-occupy-wall-street-is-more-popular-than-the-tea-party/Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-51271392406180591802011-10-20T08:07:00.150-04:002011-10-20T08:07:00.150-04:00Bruce, Are you prepared if these people get answer...Bruce, Are you prepared if these people get answers they seek?<br />Are you prepared to live in a Marxist society?<br />Latest Gallop poll shows most America's don't approve OWS message.<br />Do you approve of the rape of a 19 year old mentally handicapped young woman?<br />Do you approve of defecating on a cop car?<br />Do you approve of the illegal drug use going on at these "sit in"<br />Do you approve of the theft that is taking place at OWS?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-2641579003775431822011-10-20T05:28:21.999-04:002011-10-20T05:28:21.999-04:00Oh, my, my, my. If all of Chris' right wing t...Oh, my, my, my. If all of Chris' right wing trolls are this upset the OWS movement must be having a positive effect across the board.<br /><br />The more apoplectic the teabaggers are here, the more the movement must be having an positive effect on our country.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-15137361653324516022011-10-18T22:42:50.386-04:002011-10-18T22:42:50.386-04:00There is a lot of sick things coming out of these ...There is a lot of sick things coming out of these protests. I just heard that 1/3 of the OWS protesters think violence is needed. These people are now going to "rich" homes to protest and terrorize American families. This mob is going to implode soon and then they will be gone for good.<br /><br />Boycoting banks is just another form of anarchy for these people. They want to destroy everything.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-77942026078615814372011-10-18T18:38:35.365-04:002011-10-18T18:38:35.365-04:00Have you seen the video of those OWS d!cks asking ...Have you seen the video of those OWS d!cks asking a homeless man to give them "head"? They worked that poor man over. It's the sickest thing you've ever seen.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-21367820666489826852011-10-18T15:41:20.303-04:002011-10-18T15:41:20.303-04:00People, there IS action to take. The protests are ...People, there IS action to take. The protests are very important in starting to make your voice heard. But then you have to use that voice for demands.<br /><br />Add your name to the list, switch who you buy gas from, and PASS IT ON!<br /><br />The more this list grows, the cheaper the gas prices should become!<br /><br />This is NOT a one-day boycott!<br /><br />http://www.youtookmymoney.com/list-of-people-fighting-back.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-51244423319700182402011-10-18T15:35:17.526-04:002011-10-18T15:35:17.526-04:00Liberalism is dying before our eyes, not with a wh...Liberalism is dying before our eyes, not with a whimper or a bang, but with a grand unbathed and so apropos whine-fest. The central tenets of statism are in free-fall, and its benefi- ciaries, namely those who live off the fruits of other people’s labor, are in a panic for one last round of government handouts before they completely bankrupt the nation.<br /><br />Consider for a moment the tortured psyche of today’s American liberal. The 2008 election promised that “the smartest guy ever to become president” would “fundamentally transform the United States of America” into some liberal utopia. Wars would end. Seas would calm. And Barack Obama would spread the wealth. Instead, all he spread was misery as he unleashed the twin terrors of redistributionist economics and government-controlled health care. Hope and change became despair and more of the same.Foxhttp://www.steppingfox.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-86281490494891673742011-10-18T13:58:37.625-04:002011-10-18T13:58:37.625-04:00"Chris, you obviously don't read the news..."Chris, you obviously don't read the news. Over the past weekend the Occupy movement went global."<br />What went global was Day of Rage, by the same group who coordinated OWL.<br />"OWS is overwhelmingly supported by the American people."<br />It was, until pundits like Chris and all exposed it for what truly is, a march to Marxism. <br />That is their agenda. And Americans are just now understanding what it's about<br /><br />"screwed by the big banks and George W. Bush too."<br />Look up the Community Reinvestment Act and how Clinton amended it, which cause this economy meltdown and poor economy we all live in right now.<br />OWS folks have been brainwashed to think this was the banks and businesses fault.<br />They haven't a clue.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-65945552752970704332011-10-18T13:38:13.476-04:002011-10-18T13:38:13.476-04:00Chris, you obviously don't read the news. Ove...Chris, you obviously don't read the news. Over the past weekend the Occupy movement went global. <br /><br />If anything it is gaining strength and popularity. OWS is overwhelmingly supported by the American people.<br /><br />If you were smart you would join in. I realize that's a big IF!!!!<br /><br />In case you hadn't noticed, you and all your toadies on your blog got screwed by the big banks and George W. Bush too.<br /><br />I know facts don't matter to the teabaggers, but I do wish you'd get a clue.Bruce Fealkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134820420899225811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-55022382604556073512011-10-18T09:37:41.907-04:002011-10-18T09:37:41.907-04:00I don't think that it's Fizzing Out at al...I don't think that it's Fizzing Out at all, I think that these vermin haven't got any other place to go.California Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17276263582199917646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-74416311566201600502011-10-18T07:51:04.842-04:002011-10-18T07:51:04.842-04:00If houses in rich areas start burning down we will...If houses in rich areas start burning down we will all know who did it. It is evil what some of the commenters say on those left-wing blogs.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-71498480354631896712011-10-18T07:49:37.035-04:002011-10-18T07:49:37.035-04:00Well said Mark. They just don't realize that c...Well said Mark. They just don't realize that capitalism is what has made us the richest country the world has ever known. The poorest are the communist countries. These idiot liberals think that a doctor should make the same money as a factory worker. I read occupywallst.org blog and this point was made. They somehow think that they should have the smae things as everyone else that work hard and take risks.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905362327313044045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-25623718228999225892011-10-17T22:16:08.723-04:002011-10-17T22:16:08.723-04:00"Capitalism was always based on the unjust co..."Capitalism was always based on the unjust concept that we are not equal"<br />Capitalism is based on a simple. logical concept that anyone can be prosperous if you push yourself to make your own way, through being better then the next guy and competing against others to achieve your initiatives and goals.<br /><br />OWS is NOTHING but a push to destroy Capitalism, and achieve totalitarianism for the few elitist in the power of government.<br />You''re falling in to the Leninism, Castro/Chavez principle to mis-direct the mass that they will have economic freedom, but when all is said and done, you've lost everything you THOUGHT you were promised.<br />Wake the F*&K up!<br /><br />"Besides, capitalism has to grow all the time, and that is logically not sustainable."<br />It is sustainable when Government stays out of it's way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-77096032350488348222011-10-17T20:35:23.347-04:002011-10-17T20:35:23.347-04:00Inspired by the uprisings across the Arab world, a...Inspired by the uprisings across the Arab world, and fueled by the feelings of anger and helplessness of everyday Americans, in the past month Occupy Wall Street has:<br /><br />Gone Global: On October 15th, protests were held from North and South America to Asia, Africa and Europe, with over 1,500 events in 82 countries, as part of a global day of action.<br /><br />Flourished with Diversity: Occupiers of different ages, races, walks of life, and political beliefs have joined the movement. The mix grew quickly to include students, elderly people, families with children, construction workers on their lunch breaks, unemployed Wall Street executives, Iraq & Afghanistan veterans, moms, and many others.<br /><br /><br />Gained Support in the Heartland: Occupy actions are happening all across middle America, from Kethcum, ID to Kalamazoo, MI, from Orlando to Anchorage. Every day financial contributions arrive along with clothes, food, and notes of support from all across the country. A couple from West Virginia who have been sending supplies to Liberty Square occupiers writes: “We are so grateful for all of you involved in this defense of America. We firmly believe this is ‘it.’ If we can't grab this democracy this time, we'll sink and it will be a long time before we will have this opportunity again. Thank you for taking time from your busy life to be there.”<br /><br />Changed the Conversation: The people-powered force of shared anger at a broken system that profits the top 1% at the expense of the rest of us has shifted our national dialogue. The Occupy Wall Street protest has become a cultural phenomenon, mentioned everywhere from jokes on Saturday Night Live to the solemn dedication the national memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by President Obama Sunday. We, the occupiers, have shown our country how to come together and respect differences while working together to build a movement for change.<br /><br />What a month, and we are only getting started!<br /><br />Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future.<br /><br />Capitalism was always based on the unjust concept that we are not equal, that some people deserve to earn more than others. It never worked well except for the white, the males and the well-educated and well-connected. (I'm 3 out of 4, and I think it sucks.)<br /><br />Besides, capitalism has to grow all the time, and that is logically not sustainable. It leads to exploitation, concentration of wealth, the dsutruction of the environment, and last but not least, its UNDEMOCRATIC ( http://occupywallst.org/forum/replace-capitalism-with-democracy/ )<br /><br />If they don't give it to us, we will take it!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-51617687989508542672011-10-17T18:57:10.951-04:002011-10-17T18:57:10.951-04:00One blog at occupywallst.com they are telling prot...One blog at occupywallst.com they are telling protesters to put shit on the rich peoples food and protest at the rich homes. One comment said to take their children or destroy their private schools.You need to read what these assholes are saying on those blogs.Drewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-69205937055964027622011-10-17T13:47:33.698-04:002011-10-17T13:47:33.698-04:00Anon 17 October, 2011 12:16:
The video, right fro...Anon 17 October, 2011 12:16:<br /><br />The video, right from the first 7 seconds is deceiving. It's a shot from Times Square, New Years Eve 2001, and Anonymous uses this shot to evoke Saul Alinsky's Rule for Radicals, Ch7: Tactics "1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."<br /><br />Us Patriots know better.<br />He makes it appear as if this movement is overwhelming large, when it's not.<br />We are on to Anonymous tactics. You're not fooling anyone here.<br />Be gone now, before someone drops a house on you. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7705675907060089073.post-843572501069958352011-10-17T12:48:11.067-04:002011-10-17T12:48:11.067-04:00occupy detroit had about 250 protesters. about 100...occupy detroit had about 250 protesters. about 100 people left after a speakers told protesters to burn down the homes of the rich. this kind of talk isn't good for the movement. I was distressed by the low turnout. the main thing that everybody is in unison about is Wall Street has too much control of our economic system. we want people to understand that the banks are really at the root of the economic crisis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com