Saturday, January 23, 2010

Live Free Or Die:The Revolutionary Holocaust

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The Revolutionary Holocaust: Live Free or Die

January 23, 2010 - 3:17 ET
 A groundbreaking hour long special where Glenn Beck takes us back in time to examine the roots of socialism and communism and the evil that followed. We all know about the horrors of the holocaust where the pure evil Hitler inspired claimed the lives of millions of innocent people. But most do not know about the millions upon millions of lives lost in a different genocide of the Ukrainian people under the Stalin regime. This special also takes a look behind the iconic fashion symbol of Che Guevara showing that the myth doesn't tell the story of the man who was a blood thirsty killer. We meet a family who saw first hand what a monster the man was. They know the cost of communism and you will too when you hear their story, and who can forget about Mao Zedong? A leader responsible for 70-million deaths during his reign. All communist. All killers. We will show you things you've never seen but need to.
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Live Free or Die

The Cult of Che

These are the heroes to the left progressive movment. Now do you see why they are putting the abortion clinics in the hood? The next time I see a black kid wearing a Che T-shirt I'll let him know who Che was and how he hated black just like most or the Progressive revolutionaries did. Now the Proghressives have taken over the Democrat party and it doesn't look like they will give it back any time soon.


  1. so did you just add the part at the bottom or is the whole thing stolen?

    God, i love the last part about African Americans. You school them Chris, you school them. Nothing like a conservative white guy from the burbs to educate the urban masses.

  2. I added the bottom part Joe. Did you watch the show? Joe,isn't Che a hero of yours? Isn't that the anarchist views you love so much? Didn't you know that Che hated blacks like most of the Progressive genecidal leaders? If I remember corectly it was the white progressives that called us all racist for not voting for Obama. Detroit and it's 50 progressive distruction has been real good for the blacks and other minorities now hasn't it Joe? All those abortion clinics are in the iner cities where the blacks and other minorities live. Why do you think that is Joe? Why do white women have to drive to the hood top get an abortion? Why does every women get tested for Down Syndrom child? Is it to kill off the genetically different? Is it 'Progressive' Darwinism?

  3. dude, no Che ins't a hero of mine. There are aspects of Che and his intellectual thoughts that are interesting and kinda changed the way i think of things, but I'm not blind to the reality of who he ended up being and what actually happened in Cuba. Communism is a theoretical thing, not a reality. I don't believe we can have communism. it fails as asystem of government.

    Chris, many of you were called racist for not voting for Obama, which is like your post a few threads back calling liberals sexist for not liking Sarah Palin.

    You want to blame liberals for Detroit go ahead, but it was not liberals fault that Whites fled Detroit and alot of monied interests also left. Whatever you blame doesn't make it so, and certainly doesn't make you right.

    As for abortion clinics, you'll have to forgive me if i am not up on their locations. Perhaps i should google that. The part about white women driving to the hood is interesting. I'm sensing alittle bit of bias here.

    So i googled abortion clinics and wow, you were wrong. All those poor white women don't have to drive to the hood. They could go to the mostly white suburb of Bloomfield hills, livonia which is one of least racial diverse cities in Michigan, or Sterling Heights. Why theres a whole list of them.

    As for downs, thats something i take no side in. Some people can handle having a child that way and some can't. I don't get into their lives about that. You shouldn't either. I can see you and others protesting abortion as a means of birth control, but stay out of what families can handle. There alot of rightwing families estranged from their homosexual children and you think you should force a couple to raise a child it might not be able to. If someone chooses not to have a downs baby that is between them and their belief system, not mine.

  4. JoeC The LIBS Educating the Urban Masses,Hows that Going AFTER 40 or so Years! Take a Ride into Detroit(take your Cell Phone cause you DONT like Guns) and SEE what the Democratic/Lib Leader ship has DONE for this ONCE Great City! A Pure Example of a Minority Being Held Basiclly Captive BY Entitlements and Sub Par Education and a City Government that is CORRUPT!

    Liberal White Guys and Liberal Black Guys have DONE Nothing to ASSIST the Minority in GETTING Out of there POVERTY! Libs DO just ENOUGH to Keep them VOTING for LIB Agendas and JoeC that is the TRUTH!

  5. Al, I don't agree that liberals policies had anything to do with it. What you call a truth i suggest is blatantly biased opinion. Beside i go to detroit enough to no the problems there. You don't have to act like i am some rightwinger who's afraid of it.

    The fact that the city government is corrupt has to do less with liberals and more to do with what the populace has choosen. Corruption find itself on both sides of the aisle. But we can do the dance if you like? you point liberals i point out conservatives dance. Doesn't get us anywhere.

  6. JoeC, If in fact you are familiar with Detroit government you would know that it is LIBERAL. You cannot serarate the words liberal and corrupt, just ask the FBI. And if that is what the populace has chosen, then they must be liberal as well.

    p.s., I do not think anyone on this blog has ever mistaken you to be a 'right winger'. If what you state here is what you state out on the steet, then I dare say NO ONE has made that error.

  7. Christopher, your not an Ohio school teacher are you? Any chance that was you with the high-frequency generator?

  8. JoeC Lets Dance Name Last Conservative or Right Winger to Have ANY Input into the Political Operation of the City of Detroit! To Blame it on the Citizens is Correct UP to a Point BUT you Gotta Admit Liberal Policies are the City of Detroit and COULD Serve as a Poster Child for Liberal Entitlement and Mentality that Liberals have PUSHED to this DAY! What GOOD have ANY Liberal Policies DONE to Make the Residence of Detroit SAFER or BETTER for THEM! Too Most Libs the BIG Cities are a Voting Block,NO More NO Less!

  9. Kill the retarded kids because they don't want to give them up. Real nice. Joe I also googled abortion clinics and there are 32 in Detroit and there are less then that in the rest of the suburbs put together. Is it Okay to kill women or autistic kids if you can't handle it? Didn't Chris say he was making fun of you mutts about the Palin sexist thing?

  10. AL, Joe blames the blacks for Detroit and he blames the whites for leaving Detroit in the first place. Can you see he is no different then Che?

  11. A former official in the Reagan Defense Department says one year into the Obama presidency, it's clear there must be a dramatic change of direction in U.S. foreign policy.

    Both during his campaign and in his moving acceptance speech this week, Senator-elect Scott Brown (R-Massachusetts) talked tough against terrorism and against President Obama's decision to try terrorist suspects in U.S. civilian courts rather than military tribunals. Brown, who is a lieutenant colonel in the Massachusetts National Guard, brings practical military experience to the job.

    "...[T]he message we need to send in dealing with terrorists [is] our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them -- and not lawyers to defend them," said the newest member of Congress.

    Frank Gaffney served as the deputy assistant secretary of defense for international security during the Reagan administration, and now runs the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC. He previously has outlined what he labels "the Obama Doctrine," which is: "embolden our enemies, undermine our allies, and diminish our country."

    Even before Brown's victory on Tuesday, Gaffney said it might be up to Congress to derail that approach to foreign policy. "I think there are a lot of things that can be done before the end of this president's term. I'm hoping that they will be done by him despite his ideology, despite his doctrine," he says. "But it may be that it will require the election of a new Congress that compels such changes."

    The national defense analyst argues that the U.S. cannot afford to continue on the same course the remaining three years of Obama's term.

    "We will be attacked, I am quite certain, within that three-year time if we do not change course -- if we do not abandon the Obama Doctrine and replace it with a much more robust and effective policy," he contends.

    Gaffney notes that Obama's foreign policy moves are evidently alarming a large number of people, which would suggest that real changes could occur in the composition of the next Congress.

  12. Joe only 21% of the American people think the way you and Bruce do. What makes you think you are the one that is always right? If your idealogy was the right one then why is it only 21% of people agree with it? And that is at it's peak. Next year I'm sure it will be much lower si9nce the conservative movement is putting the liberals/Progressives in their place. One day you will be seeing your political idealogy on the History Ch. where it belongs. Did you even watch the documentory? I have read a lot on Burtron Russell myself. In fact I've read every book of his. Who was the last conservative thinker you've read? I know you think you are a high thinker because you like the liberal philosophers and watch the Hist.Ch. Why don't you read the writer Emmett Fox. He was from the 1940 and did some great work.

  13. Thank you Anon for reminding Joe that I was making fun of the left by saying that if they didn't like her they were sexist. Joe I'm not much of a drinker but I do find you interesting and I think I would enjoy having a beer with you. You just need to have some fun. You don't seem like you are very happy. I hope I am wrong.

  14. Poor blacks. The whites left the city of Detroit to them, along with all of its opportunities. The blacks control the city, elect its liberal officials, and reap millions upon millions of liberal dollars for liberal programs. And now we see the result. But yeah, it's all the "white flight" fault. Well last time I checked, Detroit didn't want anything to do with the burbs, or the white people, just the burbs dollars. Well maybe if we just throw yet some more federal dollars at the problem ... oh no, wait, that didn't exactly work for the school system. Yet again the white man keeps the black man down.

    JoeC blames the white man, but I don't see him running to live in Detroit any time soon. What a hypocrite. JoeC how about you start the trend of a white man moving into Detroit?

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  16. I had to delete my post because the link didn't work. This is a reposting.

    It's interesting, not one word on your blog about the Supreme Court ruling yesterday from the conservative court on allowing corporations to make unlimited contributions to political campaigns. Probably the most significant Supreme Court ruling and the worst since Dread Scott and not one word. I think it's pretty revealing.
    By the way, Chris, you wonder why I have problems with Christians, here's why.
    The Christian Mafia

  17. Wow Bruce you found some Christians in name only. You must also hate blacks and latinos also. Our prisons aren't full of them. I just don't understand why you hate the Christians more then the Muslims. There are muslim and Jews that are part of the mafia and do the exact same thing. But you only hate the Christians. Good for you. You only pointed out that you are a bigot. Isn't that what a bigot is? They judge the whole group from what some in the group do? And Bruce I didn't have time to post every thing that happens. If you didn't notice I didn't even comment must this weekend. So go ahead and condem me like the bigot you are because I am a Christian and because I didn't post something that popped up this weekend. I'll get to it B ruce but it has to be after Church. Do you remember when BHObama said he would not take some contributions and then he lied about it during the campain? I don't remember you ever blogging about that either. That is just as revealing about you. And you never ever posted anything about that. It's only been a busy weekend for me. You go and hate the Christians and Jews bruce just like Hitler did. Maybe I should do a peice about Nero/Obama fiddled while Rome/America burned. Have fun at the cross burning bruce. And thanks for pointing out that you are a religious bigot once again and most likely a racist too.

  18. Wow, I have to give you credit, Chris. You can take anything I say and try to turn it around.

    No, these are mainstream Christians in the government of the United States of America. They are the people you worship, Chris.

    You want to elect more people like this to office. Admit it, you are part of the plot to have Christians like this take over our government.

  19. Bruce Now YOUR TALKING PLOTs! When Supreme Court Ruling Goes Conservative its a PLOT! When it Goes LIb which They Have its America at its Finest! As Usual Bruce, your GOING BOTH ways on a ONE Way Street! We are Conspiring Against YOU Bruce RUN for COVER. WoW! Bruce I thought FREEDOM to Give to Campaignes was Freedom of Choice! Does Not seem to BOTHER You when Big Broth I mean Soros GETS his BILLIONS into the Game BUT make the Field LEVEL and NOW as Usual Bruce you Want to take your BALL and Leave the Game!

    I Thought it was a LIBERAL thing ,You Know Legislation from Judical Branch!

  20. Actually, Al, that is all a myth. It's always the conservatives that talk about an activist judicial branch. This is the most activist court probably ever.

    The ruling they made wasn't even on the original case. That case was dismissed. Roberts told them to bring another issue before the court and they would rule on it.

    This ruling by a conservative court, puts our country in the hands of corporations, foreign and domestic.

    This is the worst ruling of the Court since Dread Scott.

  21. Chris, the last conservative authors i read where Christine Todd Whitman, Andrew Sullivan, Bruce Bartlett, although that book skewered Bush, so i am not sure that counts. Both of John McCains books.

    I was on the Ron Paul email list does that count for anything? I usually read Sowell's and Elders' articles in the paper. Not that i agree with them.

    No i haven't watched the documentary yet. Got alot going on, i'll get to it maybe. Anything from Beck is suspect right out the gate.

  22. Bruce Chris hasn't done anything on the abortion rally in DC either. What does that tell you idiots on the left about the him? You are a bunch of idiots on the left.

  23. So, you were at a rally that favors abortion, Anonymous. Wow! Way to go.

    Even I don't favor abortion. Although I do think it should be safe, legal and rare.

  24. Anon, wow, i never said kill anyone. Thanks for playing. I said if a family chooses to abort a pregnancy because of Downs that is not my call. Its not my place to force them to have it and then force them to keep it or give it away. I think its best to let families make their decision on their own.

    Personally i feel i would want to have the baby, but luckily i am not in that situation. My kids did not have downs.

    Al, there you go again thinking. The conspiracy theory about judicial activism is just that a theory. I don't think its a conservative vs. liberal thing, but i see the conservative judges sided with the majority right? i am frightened that our courts have started to see corporations as analogous to citizens in its rullings. I don't believe that they or unions should be entitled the same rights as a citizen.

    As for Soros, well he's just the counterpoint to the rights big contributors. Look at Mellon Scaife qand others in your party.

  25. Media Matters Attacks Beck – Ignores Progressive Roots Of The Klan And Holocaust by Andrew Marcus

    Media Matters is attempting to attack Glenn Beck over his expose’ of Progressive violence and crimes against humanity in the previous century.

    Media Matters can spend all year trying to deny the blood soaked roots of the progressive movement, but that’s a little like Democrat Robert Byrd arguing that there was no such thing as slavery, let alone the KKK.

    Case in point, one topic Media Matters and other progressive groups don’t want to deal with is how Progressive Eugenics inspired the Master Race holocaust of WWII.

    I have covered this here before, and the facts are truly damning as well as irrefutable.

    To see just how involved the American Progressive movement was in the global effort to murder the “inferior” in the name of their junk science of Eugenics, we dare you to click through to this Google Books page for Black’s book, War Against The Weak. The link highlights the word Progressive everywhere it appears in the text.
    And before the folks at Media Matters try to destroy the source of the detailed research which reveals how America’s Progressive movement collaborated with the Nazis to commit genocide, we would simply like to wish you good luck with that.

    I would like to officially challenge the folks at Media Matters, and other progressive intellectual sink-holes, to address their movement’s role in the Nazi genocide.

    The Neo-Progressives might do themselves a service by admitting the damage their predecessors have done, and trying to make amends for their horrors. Denying these documented crimes is the same as excusing them.

    I would also like to challenge American Jews and Blacks, the main targets of Progressive Eugenics, by asking how they can call themselves Progressives given what the movement has unapologetically done to their populations.

    Progressive intellectuals inspired and fed the ideology of Nazis and the Klan.

    Is a Jewish Progressive any different than a Jewish Nazi? If so, how?

    Is a black Progressive any different than a black Klansman? If so, how?

    If those questions strike you as painful, they should. This topic demands some tough questions.

    By no means am I concluding that Progressive Jews and Blacks are Nazis or Klansmen. Of course they are not. I am absolutely suggesting they have not a clue about the movement they have signed onto. How could they be aware of what Progressivism unapologetically did, and still join it?

    These are serious questions which I wish any progressive would attempt to address. For all I know, there is a perfectly good reason for these people to subscribe to a movement that unapologetically tried to wipe them off the face of the earth.

    So far, I can’t figure it out.

    At the very least, if the Progressive movement of today would like to argue that it is not the same movement it once was, I’m all ears. So far all I’ve heard is defensiveness. The Progressive movement should be considered to have not a shred of credibility until they at least acknowledge their movement’s role in many of the n’s most sadistic atrocities.

  26. BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA ... oh man ... BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA ... oh, forgive me while I catch my breath from laughing at Bruce "Epic" FAILk repeating Grayson's talking points about the Supreme Court decision being the worst thing since Dred Scott. LOL ... way to copy MoveOn and DailyKos' talking points idiot Bruce! ROFLMAO.

    Plessy? Korematsu? Roe? Bush v. Gore?

    Mere flesh wounds!


  27. Poor FAILk. He's worried about challengers sucking corporate money out to his Hypocrat incumbents' war chests. BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA ... it cracks me up how suddenly you crooked despicable LIEberal Hypocrats are all concerned about corporate money when you Hypocrats are already owned by Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Trial Lawyers, Unions, etc. etc. etc. BWAAAAAHAAHAHA ... FAILk has no idea why he's angry at the SCOTUS decision, he only knows that MoveOn told him to be. What a joke you idiots are. Get a grip on reality if you can still recognize it you shitheads.

  28. Hey there, guess who's been astroturfing?!?! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... oh my GOD these LIEberals are making this too easy. What a bunch of idiots:

    Ellie Light: Obama Astroturfer?

    Someone appears to be doing a little Astroturfing for Obama.

    In recent days, a letter defending Obama has appeared in dozens of newspapers throughout the country — all signed by an “Ellie Light.” In the letters, which all use identical language, Ms. Light explains that Obama never promised to fix all our problems quickly or painlessly. She declares:

    Today, the president is being attacked as if he’d promised that our problems would wash off in the morning. He never did. It’s time for Americans to realize that governing is hard work, and that a president can’t just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

    Editors all over the country found Light’s message strangely compelling. It was reprinted at The Politico; the Philadelphia Daily News; the San Francisco Examiner; the Washington Times; and a USA Today blog. In addition, the letter has appeared at literally dozens of small-town papers across the country, with names like the Los Banos Enterprise, the North Adams Transcript, and the Danbury News-Times.

    Ms. Light always claims to be a local in these letters. Her real estate holdings are apparently prodigious, as she has claimed residences in Philadelphia, PA; Daly City, California; Mansfield, Ohio; Waynesboro, Virginia; Algoma, Wisconsin; Bangor, Maine; and dozens of other places. Who said Obama supporters were all downtrodden?

    The story was originally broken by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, which published a thread of e-mail correspondence between the reporter and “Ellie Light.” But the original Plain Dealer story identified only the tip of the iceberg.

    With the help of my commenters, I have been keeping a running total at my blog of the places where Light’s letter has appeared. At last count, her letter has appeared in at least 47 newspapers in at least 23 different states.

    So far, that is. That number is growing all the time. It even appeared in a newspaper in Bangkok, Thailand!

    As you can see at my blog, the states where her letters appear correspond quite well with the states that Obama won.

    Who is behind this? Are all these letters truly the work of a single woman? Or is there an organization behind “Ellie Light”? (David Axelrod, call your office!) There’s no hard proof as of yet.

    Here’s what we do know. Glenn Greenwald (yes, I know, but keep reading) flagged the fact that Obama’s pal (and head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs) Cass Sunstein recently wrote a paper suggesting something sounding a lot like Astroturfing:

    Sunstein advocates that the Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.” He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called “independent” credible voices to bolster the Government’s messaging (on the ground that those who don’t believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government).

    That sure sounds a lot like what’s happening here, doesn’t it?

    Who is Ellie Light?

    I would like to know.

    How about you?

  29. Well here's a question that FAILk won't ever answer but I will keep asking it. FAILk, why are you against abortion? If it isn't killing, if it's as natural as clipping your toenails, why are you against it?

    Ultrasound and the Conscience of an Abortionist

    Posted by Gregory of Yardale at January 23, 2010 9:48 AM

    You will rarely hear about it in the progressive Mainstream Media, but a number of former abortionists are crossing over to the Pro-Life side. Advances in medical science, in particular, ultrasound technology that confirm that the products of conception are not an undifferentiated mass of cells no different than a fingernail, and that gives moral human beings pause about the lives they are destroying.

    The Weekly Standard reports on this phenomenon, reporting on the casual horror of torn and dismembered babies, tiny beating hearts silenced forever, and the stench of burning fetal tissues that the progressive left eagerly sacrifices on the altar of Eros.

    In general, abortion providers have censored their own emotional trauma out of concern to protect abortion rights. In 2008, however, abortionist Lisa Harris endeavored to begin "breaking the silence" in the pages of the journal Reproductive Health Matters. When she herself was 18 weeks pregnant, Dr. Harris performed a D&E abortion on an 18-week-old fetus. Harris felt her own child kick precisely at the moment that she ripped a fetal leg off with her forceps:
    Instantly, tears were streaming from my eyes--without me--meaning my conscious brain--even being aware of what was going on. I felt as if my response had come entirely from my body, bypassing my usual cognitive processing completely. A message seemed to travel from my hand and my uterus to my tear ducts. It was an overwhelming feeling--a brutally visceral response--heartfelt and unmediated by my training or my feminist pro-choice politics. It was one of the more raw moments in my life.
    Harris concluded her piece by lamenting that the pro-choice movement has left providers to suffer in silence because it has "not owned up to the reality of the fetus, or the reality of fetal parts." Indeed, it often insists that images used by the pro-life movement are faked.
    There's more at the link. So much more. We on the right seem to be conscious of these horrors. The progressive left either denies them, or simply doesn't care; because casual sex is just too important.

    You have to wonder, if some abortionists leave after seeing the horror of what they do every day for a paycheck... WTH is wrong with those that don't?

  30. Well JoeC You got IT Wrong again But not Something NEW!
    I was Responding to Bruces Plot Theory KIND of Off the WALL but then ITS Bruce!

    Administrations CAN go AFTER Private Sector at Will and have Backings of Unions and Billionaires. But say Private Sector CAN Go after Politicans and their Falsehoods ALL of a SUDDEN the MONEY is BAD! MONEY Good from UNIONS and BILLIONARES! Think its that FREEDOM of Expression Thingy WE as a FREE Nation have Come to LOVE!
    One other SMALL thing Joec I thought the Corporations were OWNED by Citizens and HAD Citizens EMPLOYED by THEM! American Owned Corparations should not have the SAME Rights as EVERY ONE else Joe C for WHAT Reason?

  31. So Joe what you are saying is kill the Downs babies as long as you aren't the one doing it it's OK in your book? Is that how you wipe your conscience clean? If Christians started kill black babies while still in the womb and we could make it legal you wouldn't have a problem with it? But if the Supreme Court does something that might hurt the Democrat party you fight that law. You just pick and choose. What if men were given the chance to abort a baby they didn't want. Would you back that also? Just as long as you didn't do the killing. Is it OK for Saddam Hussein to kill all those millions of people as long as you did nothing to stop it you're good with it? Moa and Che are stiil your heros because they did what it takes to push the Progressive agendqa you love so much. Joe I find it hard to believe that your heart has been hardened so much. You think it's a womens choice to kill her baby and it's Moa's choice to kill the millions he wanted gone. Will you progressives be looking to kill off the 1 in 150 Autistic children being born now? I'm sure you hope they find a test for that so they can. What about testing for women and then killing them off while they are pre-natal? The Chinese killed the girl babies when they were still connected to the mother Did you know that that is OK even in many states in the country? We both know that isn't a conservative law. human life means very little to you liberals and it makes most
    Americans sick.

  32. John it is amazing that the left are going so crazy over Becks documentory. They didn't find one thing worng or false about it. They just don't want us to know what the Progressive history is. Look at how Bruce and Joe go after Christian groups that are nuts but when whole Islamic countries call for the extinction of Jews and Christians and America they say we are the crazy ones. Thank God they are only a fringe group of less then 21%. Their bigotry of Christians ands Jews is no different then the Nazi's. The Christians have woken up to the persecution from the Progressive left. They are afraid of us and we need to keep it that way. They want Democracy when it suets them but knowing that they are only 21% of the population puts democracy against them.

  33. LIEberal Hypocrats are already trying to shut down freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the rights of little innocent babies to live ... they want the corporations to be able to "contribute" (aka bribe) the incumbents but not make their ads in the light of day ... lol, these LIEberals are quite the fascists. Just look at Obummer, trying to make a new crisis every day. Now suddenly Obummer has found religion and thinks he's found a scapegoat in banks. LOL ... Obummer says "yeah, I feel your pain, I know you're angry at the fat cat bankers". Uh, NO, we're angry at the government who gave out our (and our children's) money to the banks and car companies and in the porkulus bill, against the majority's wishes! I love how Obummer doesn't get it, and once again these idiot Hypocrats keep their heads in the sand. Just whistling past the graveyard. They are so far removed from reality that it is getting quite entertaining. One year with a SUPERMAJORITY, they could have passed ANYTHING they wanted to, they NEVER had to and NEVER did give the Republicans a seat at the table in constructing their MONSTROSITY of a health care overhaul. What they came up with was so physically revolting and idiotic that they still couldn't bring themselves to pass this turd of a bill ... ROFLMAO ... what a bunch of CLOWNS. Now Obummer is left floundering, still trying to blame it all on Bush!! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHA, EPIC FAIL!!

    Remember back in the day when FAILk said "well the Hypocrats are just going to pass their health care bill without the Republicans" and I said GO AHEAD IDIOT, I can't WAIT to see this EPIC FAIL! BWAAAAHAHAHAHA Oh, and I also told him that the Hypocrats were just crafting a bill as a big giveaway to their Big Insurance and Big Pharma and Trial Lawyer bosses. I'm not psychic or anything, I just know how dirty these Hypocrats are. Oh, and I had forgotten to include Unions, but the Hypocrats sure didn't!! LOL

  34. Another bit on the uselessness, and even destructiveness, of unions.

    Big Government, Big Unions by Bret Jacobson

    This week brought inauspicious news: more union members work for the government than work in the private sector, “despite there being 5 times more wage and salary workers in the private sector.”

    Because of globalization, safer workplaces, Social Security, the ability to save for one’s own retirement through 401k plans, and a better-educated, more mobile workforce, only 7.2 percent of workers in the private workforce have chosen to join a union.

    Compare that to the world of government employment, where there is no employer to tell people why a union might not be best for them (we’re the employer, but we’re a little busy with our day jobs) and you get 37.4 percent of government workers paying dues. All told, that’s 7.9 million that we pay and 7.4 million paid by people who actually create wealth.

    And wealth, while a dirty word to some, is an important concept. Because private-sector unions can redistribute wealth from one private party (the company’s owners) to another (the company’s employees), one may not like a union’s political agenda but it’s tough to get too riled up about the direct role of a union (unless employees didn’t want it there in the first place

    But wealth as it relates to public-sector unions is different. We are the ones who pick up the tab, but it’s elected politicians — many of whom are helped into office by unions in the first place — that do the negotiating on wages, benefits, number of hours, etc. So public-sector unions continually drive up the cost of government by getting people elected to run the government.

    Or, as one professor told the New York Times: “At the same time the country is being squeezed, public-sector unions are a rising political force in the Democratic Party … They depend on extra money for the public sector, and that puts the Democrats in a difficult position. In four big states — New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California — the public-sector unions have largely been untouched by the economic downturn. In those states, you have an impeding clash between the public-sector unions and the public at large.”

    See some recent examples from Oregon, Maine, California, Illinois, Minnesota, and Arizona of the ways public-sector unions stick it to taxpayers

    *** wouldn’t you know it, the Secretary of Labor actually used the news to push for card check and the Employee Free Choice Act

  35. Chris, first off, i'm not a Maoist supporter. Never said i was. Second, the argument you attempted is a false one. Anyone with a ounce of philosophy study will tell you that "slippery Slope" arguments are illogical and prone to over ASS uming things.

    So if i'm okay with families choosing to have or not have downs babies (or "the retards" as ANON put it. Strange you didn't jump on him for that piece of nastyness), you can not by any means ASSume i am okay will any other choice. Since your familiar with Bertrand Russel's work i figure you'd be up on that stuff.

    Chris, you know i oppose abortion as birth control. I've said it a few times on this blog. I'd be willing to back an anti-abortion bill that allowed for select cases (rape, incest, downs). I must make it clear that i do approve of plan b pills and other forms of pre-fetus birth control.


Please keep it clean and nice. Thank you for taking the time to post you thought. It means a lot to me that you do this.