It's time to recall the Wisconsin 14 Democrats that held up democracy in order to bully their way past the will of the voters in Wisconsin. Go to www.facebook.com/RecallWI14 . We can play this same game. Send this facebook page to all your friends and blogs. These unions and liberals are playing for keeps. If they win this it will cost us all money. Do you want to dig deeper in your pocket at tax time to give into the unions that are literally destroying our country? Do you want to give those unions that much power over you and you government? We need to get the word out now. This may be in Wisconsin right now but it is coming to a State near you soon.
I think these same public sector unions are forgetting that it was the taxpayers that bailed them out with the stimulus bill. They got their money and security when we added to our national debt to secure their jobs,pensions and benefits. These same unions also got an exemption from paying the obamacare "Cadillac tax" like a protected class. We didn't get that special treatment. I'm getting sick of the unions getting treated as a protected elite class of workers. We all must make cuts and pay taxes. The unions are not above that. But in reality they think they are because they own the Democratic Party. And the Democratic Party pays up with our tax dollars.
That is why we must limit the collective bargaining of these public sector unions. If we don't they will keep taking from the tax payers.
They can try, Chris, but the people in WI aren't with you and every poll taken here shows that Walker and the Republican's approval is in the toilet. And that's only two months into his governorship.
ReplyDelete"people in WI aren't with you and every poll taken here shows that Walker and the Republican's approval is in the toilet."
ReplyDeleteIf only that were true, you'd be right.
I wouldn't say every poll, Bruce
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2011/02/25/poll-wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-winning-labor-budget-fight
by a margin of 74 percent to 18 percent, likely voters in Wisconsin back the idea of making state employees pay more for their health insurance. By a margin of 79 percent to 16 percent, they favor asking state workers to contribute more toward their pensions. And, by a margin of 66 percent to 30 percent they support the idea that state workers’ pay increase should be tied to the rate of inflation unless voters approve a higher raise by public referendum.
the idea that the power of public employee unions to engage in collective bargaining be limited to wage and benefit issues--Wisconsin voters break with the governor, 54 percent to 41 percent.
Are you saying that the voters of Wisconsin are for paying higher taxes? Maybe when the voters realize that they have to pay more in taxes and lost jobs they'll change their minds? Watch the ads running on TV. The one ad shows a union dope on a hunger strike with a sign eating a sub. The youtube ad of the pile of shit on the Madison capitol bathroom floor isn't art.
ReplyDeleteAs I wrote in my last post, the current labor disputes in the National Football League (between owners and players) and Wisconsin (between Governor Scott Walker and the state’s public employee unions) are essentially about the two sides who enjoy the financial benefits of their monopoly status doing what ever they possibly can to use and keep their special privileges. Specifically, NFL owners and public union employees enjoy antitrust exemptions that the vast majority of those who finance them do not.
ReplyDeleteBut the most recent national polls show most Americans are against these two monopolies. A Seton Hall University poll shows the public favors the NFL players over the owners by 35% to 22% and a Quinnipiac University poll shows 45% of American respondents supporting Walker’s agenda and 42% opposing limiting collective bargaining by public employee unions.
In the end, the NFL owners and public employee unions may prevail in these battles given the vast monetary and collective bargaining advantages they have over their counterparts. But with most Americans fully aware they bare the burden of such monopolies, consumers and taxpayers will likely win the war, with NFLPA boss DeMaurice Smith Governor Walker having led the way.
Forbes
TAMPA, Fla., March 11, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- The Free Enterprise Nation (FEN) today released the results of a national poll that shows strong support for Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker among Independent voters. The poll of voters outside of Wisconsin, taken from March 3rd to March 9th, included 500 Democrat, 500 Republican and 500 Independent voters.
ReplyDeleteFEN spokesman, Jim MacDougald stated that "This poll contradicts some of the other polls we've seen. According to our poll, 95% of Republicans agree with the Governor, and 92% of Democrats agree with the union. There is not much of a surprise there. But 66% of Independent voters agree with the Governor, and this group is what swings most elections."
Mark,
ReplyDeleteDick Morris! Lmao. I understand that the majority of polls are against the Walker plan and that doesn't seem good for a anti-union ideology that has little to do with wages or benefits. So sometimes one must strikeout a few times before they can bunt it back to the pitcher for an easy out. Still try not to be upset. One day long after this has come back to haunt the RNC in 2012 you'll realize the American public didn't buy the Faux news talking points.
Thanks Chris. I just posted this on my facebook and emailed it to all my friends.
ReplyDeleteWith the new ads running the polls will start to change fast. Tea Party and Koch brothers pooring tons of money for these ads.
I've seen pictures of the pile of poo on the Madison Capitol building floor.
But instead of providing a solution that most of America wants -- more domestic drilling -- President Obama used his presser to recite misleading talking points to justify his anti-energy policies, arguments that have all been thoroughly debunked.
ReplyDeleteHere are the three biggest myths from President Obama's remarks this afternoon:
"We can't escape the fact that we control only 2% of the world's oil." This is a common refrain among anti-drilling Democrats and environmentalists, and it's repeated enough that many people accept it as true. In reality, it's 100% false. The number comes from a highly conservative estimate from the Energy Information Administration totaling America's proven reserves where we are already drilling. It does not include the 10 billion barrels available in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It does not include most of the 86 billion barrels available offshore in the Outer Continental Shelf, most of which President Obama has placed under an executive drilling ban. And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world's oil is clearly false.
"Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren't producing a thing." President Obama adds to this whopper by saying he wants to "encourage companies to produce [on] the leases they hold." While this sounds like a common sense fix, it's actually just blind rhetoric reserved only for people with a shocking ignorance of drilling. You can read more about this here and here, but it basically boils down to this: A lease is for exploration and production, not just production, and because oil is not equally distributed across the globe, one parcel of leased acreage may not hold any oil. Moreover, due to the circuitous and needlessly complicated permitting process, it can take years for companies who own a lease to complete their exploration activities. To get to the production phase, it could take as long as ten years. Ironically, President Obama wants to tax companies for not producing on their leases, even if the federal government's refusal to grant permits is the reason why those companies are not drilling.
"Last year...our oil production reached its highest level in 7 years." This is pure spin. President Obama is deliberately trying to take credit for actions unrelated to his policies. The increased level of production is due to the actions of previous administrations and production in the Dakotas where most drilling is occurring on private land. By contrast, the Energy Information Administration projects that there will be a decline in production of 220,000 barrels of domestic oil per day in 2011, and in 2012 America will produce 150 million fewer barrels in the Gulf of Mexico, all because of President Obama's policies to discourage or ban domestic drilling. In addition, President Obama's drilling moratorium (and subsequent refusal to issue drilling permits) has forced at least 7 rigs to leave the Gulf and sign contracts in other countries, taking much needed jobs and revenue with them.
As gas prices skyrocket, Americans are reminded every day that the federal government's refusal to allow responsible domestic drilling can have an incredibly destructive economic impact. Instead of trying to fix this problem, the Obama administration has worked every day to make sure that America produces less oil and has to rely more on OPEC for our energy needs.
No amount of White House spin or misleading talking points can change that tragic fact.
Joe, you have your polls and I have found 1 of several that counter Bruce’s claims.
ReplyDeleteSorry if you seem to forget that Morris is an American political author and commentator who previously worked as a pollster, political campaign consultant, and general political consultant under Clinton.
It's what he did for a living, Joe.
But you go right ahead and denounce him. I'll take a poll from him then some liberal slanted NYTimes/CBS poll any day.
Mark,
ReplyDeleteDo you mean you trust this Dick Morris when he says a poll is unbiased?
Dick Morris Said...
"In each of the races where I was involved, I loved working with the Tea Party groups, particularly TeaPartyPatriots.org. They propelled these victories with their energy and commitment.
In the races where I was directly involved with the candidates and campaigns, we won the following 28 Congressional races, all takeaways from the Democrats:"
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/heartfelt-thanks-and-final-report/
Why yes he sounds like a totally impartial guy to me.(LMAO)Comeon, son you got to do better than that. Dick Morris funded alot of Tea Party candidates of course he's biased. Your not even trying. I'm not Bruce, i wouldn't show up with just the NYT poll. I know that's flimsy evidence, but you didn't think a major fundraiser of the conservative Tea Party would be as flimsy?
Cannot we as adults decide on a poll we can all agree on and then argue its merits for a day?
ReplyDeleteJoe, just like a liberal. Down play a poll just because you don't agree with the person, group or results, is truly a Saul Alinsky move.
ReplyDeleteYou've got nothing but bias yourself, just because the guy switched sides and now works with TPP candidates.
There's a poll, one of many that shows a slightly different result.
I don't care whether you agree with who championed it.
Get real.
Mark,
ReplyDeleteWow, a Saul Alinsky move? Who's that? I have a questions though. What did you do in your post?
Mark Adams said..."I'll take a poll from him then some liberal slanted NYTimes/CBS poll any day."
Did you just pull a Saul Alinsky Move whatever that might be? You questioned the NYT/CBS poll on Wisconsin, because you don't like the group, and you don't agree with the results.
How did you walk into that? Surely you saw that coming?
But to be clear i don't care about Dick Morris. I question the veracity of the poll because of his heavy involvement in conservative politics. He's obviously biased and we both know that.
Stop deflecting.
"You questioned the NYT/CBS poll on Wisconsin, because you don't like the group, and you don't agree with the results."
ReplyDeleteI didn't question nothing, Joe.
I said I would take his poll over theirs.
You know why? This guy does this for a living. To poll issues that matter to people, evaluate them and use them to strategize campaigns and elections.
He is quite successful at this as he was Clinton’s (a Dem) Campaign strategist and advisor and helped him win the Presidency, along with many TPP candidates who won seats in 2010.
NYT and CBS don't use any of this in that manner, except to fluff their feathers.
"Stop deflecting." ???
You've been handed your HAT on this issue.
You deflected my reply to Bruce.
I proved that Bruce's comment "every poll taken here shows that Walker and the Republican's approval is in the toilet." WAS WRONG.
End of story!