Sunday, July 24, 2011

No One Wants to Default... But the WH 'Moved the Goalposts'



We are in a spending crisis like none other in our history. The WH wants to keep the debt high and the only way it can do that is to stop the Republicans in Congress. We must get a handle on our debt and start paying it down now. If we raise taxes on businesses that are creating wealth in this country we will see the economy stay in recession or go into a depression.
The first thing we need to do is cut the massive spending Obama and the Democrats have done over the past years. We can't afford to keep going on the road the Democrats have put us on. We have to make cuts that will hurt. But the fact is we are already in economic pain and adding to our debt by another $2 trillion will only make the inevitable worse. We can't keep putting off our massive debt to the next generation. It is our debt. Both Republicans and Democrats have put us in this debt. But it is only the Republicans that are willing to do what it takes to pay off our debt without hurting the economy at the same time. Once we get our economy back on track with cuts and balancing we can debate raising taxes again. But to raise taxes now will only hurt our economy and the middle class. Almost everyone agrees with that except the class warfare liberals. They want to keep putting the pressure of our debt and taxes on those 50% of Americans that are paying federal taxes and the private sector. If we don't back off the economic attacks on our private sector they will up and leave or fold all together.
Obama and the Democratic Party have gotten everything they wanted over the last two years. Take a look at where it has taken us. It has made things much worse as we are still seeing unemployment go through the roof. They have had their chance to do what they wanted and they took it. The results are as clear as a bell and it is time to do something different for a change.


  1. Please join me and many of your friends at my new forum. We have a lot of things to discuss and get off of our chests. We want you to share your thoughts and opinions. ... We are excited to hear from all of you and hopefully make some new friends who share our passions and how we are going to put America back. On track.

  2. The first thing that needs to come out of the Whitehouse and Senate is HONESTY. If they are not going to be honest with us, I have no use to even listen to what Obama and Reid have to say. They out in out lied to the American people on Ryan's plan and the CCB. And some Americans have not taken the steps necessary to look at those plans to see if ANYONE is being honest about it.

  3. If the Democrats blow this again the stock market will tank tomorrow.

  4. What is the Democratic party or Obama's plan? All I see is the Democrats turning down everything the Republicans bring to the table. Is that leadership?

  5. The Repubs said they would make tax increases that Dems want. Why is Obama saying it isn't good enough? The House must pass something today and leave it up to the Senate and WH to turn down or pass. If they don't we will have a worldwide meltdown. I've had enough of Washington lies.

  6. The Democrats better not hold this up any longer. If we go into default it will be blamed on Obama.

  7. Mark,
    I'd like to see some honesty on Boehners part too, and not just his tanning booth times.

    Why am i not surprised that Chris took this time not to examine the workings of a conservatives mind who in cold blood acted like another Famous Conservative Tim McVeigh and bombed the Government for hazy, bigoted reasons, but to attack Obama in a long running continual series of angry blogs.

  8. Joe, not sure what his personal activities have anything to do with what I wrote, but if that's what flouts your boat... Chris is right, Obama has moved the goal post. Put it's his style. He tosses in another 400B, and then will withdrawal it, making appear he is compromising. At least Boehners is not making the claim that SS/Medicare/medicaid/etc benefits will be cut, cause that would be the biggest crock of crap to come out of Washington... opps I guess some on the left have made that claim already.

  9. Joe we still don't know if that guy is a liberal or conservative. But when it comes to liberal terrorists you have a 10 to 1 lead over us. I'd rather look at what the Democrats and Obama are doing to our country right now. And you would rather look at what some crazed lunatic overseas has done. That just proves that the Democrats are on the wrong side and losing this debate.
    Should I also talk about another liberal musician hero that overdosed as well, and how the MSM is proppng her up as a hero?

  10. Joe what has Boehner not been honest about? At least I use facts to point out the dishonesty of Obama.

  11. Joe have you heard about the liberal terrorist starting fires in Califonia? Why haven't you brought up that one yet?

  12. Terrorist proclaimed himself 'Darwinian,' not 'Christian'
    Norwegian's manifesto shows Breivik not religious, having no personal faith
    Posted: July 24, 2011
    7:09 pm Eastern

    © 2011 WND

    WASHINGTON – A review of Anders Behring Breivik's 1,500-page manifesto shows the media's quick characterization of the Norwegian terrorist as a "Christian" may be as incorrect as it was to call Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh one.

    Breivik was arrested over the weekend, charged with a pair of brutal attacks in and near Oslo, Norway, including a bombing in the capital city that killed 7 and a shooting spree at a youth political retreat on the island of Utoya that killed more than 80 victims.

    Piecing together Breivik's various posts on the Internet, many media reports have characterized the terrorist – who says he was upset over the multiculturalist policies stemming from Norway's Labour Party – as a "right-wing, Christian fundamentalist."

    Yet, while McVeigh rejected God altogether, Breivik writes in his manifesto that he is not religious, has doubts about God's existence, does not pray, but does assert the primacy of Europe's "Christian culture" as well as his own pagan Nordic culture.

    Read the full story at

    Joe, if he is Darwinian that makes him a liberal, not a conservative. Yet again it's your side that is doing all the terror. It must suck to be a liberal hate monger?

  13. WND? I'm laughing my balls off. Next you'll source the Newt Gingrich or someone just to the left of the WND.

  14. Chris,
    Thats the lamest excuse for an answer you have given yet. He can't be a conservative because the WND daily believes him to be transfixed by Darwin.


    Everyone knows he's a conservative and you come with that bullshit. How stupid you look. Just acknowledge that conservatives are violent and much more so than the little smack the camera examples you post of liberals.

    You and your sheep. None of them have the stones to call you out. Where's Steve? Mom must have cut his internet off after he missed his shift at Subway.


    This says he was waging a Christian war so it must be true. The India times isn't a pathetic republican suckass rag like WND. It has some credibility, unlike you and WND.

  16. Why is it Joe that when one Pagan,not Christian, acts out like a Muslim you idiots on the left go batshit nuts? Muslims have been terrorizing the world and you keep backing them up with excusses. You do the same when Israel fights back when they have every Muslim nation after them. Talk about being a sheep.

    PS his manifesto said that he was Darwinian and a pagan maybe you should read it. At this point he sounds like he was just crazy neither right nor left, just crazy.

    May I ask where they got the info that this guy was "waging a Christian war against Islam"? Where did they get the thought that he was Christian?

  17. Joe maybe you need to look at the facts. It looks like most articles about this guy say he isn't a Christian or a conservative. But he is against the Muslims. You know Mulsims are the ones doing most of the terrorist attacks around the world and are killing Christians and Jews whenever they can.

    Did you know that 1 out of ever 30,000 American Mulsims are part of the Jihad? Do you know what Jihad is Joe? No other religion is having a holy war against all other religions.

  18. Chris, He's a conservative and judeo-christian in his thinking and most articles I've read and the excerpts of his manifesto i have read indicate he is a Christian. Now conservative apologist groups like WND will lie their asses off to protect conservatives and you damn well know it.

    Now to the excerpts...

    1. "Christendom is gradually being deconstructed. It is time that the Pope and his cardinals begin to resist the deliberate deconstruction of European Christendom. The process would, however, be quite challenging, but worth the effort as all Justiciar Knights who dies for their faith will be a great source of inspiration for generations to come. They will be role models. Certain, exceptionally brave and selfless, Justiciar Knights in the coming decades should even be considered as candidates for official veneration."

    2. "I came in contact with Serbian cultural conservatives through the internet. This initial contact would eventually result in my contact with several key individuals all over Europe and the forming of the group who would later establish the military order and tribunal ... Knights Templar."

  19. Chris,
    You sound sick and twisted defending him like that. I don't care how many muslims want to do the humpty dance and or the Watusi what he did is despicable and their is no room for you to justify it.

    I can't reconcile your passion for unborn children with the man who just attempted to defend a sick killer of innocent children.

    I don't believe that fetus in the first trimester are babies and truly alive but i respect that you believe it and that you feel it is Christlike in doing so but when you defend sick individuals like this with a discussion of other sinners of some other religion you do yourself a disservice.

  20. The Redistribution of Wealth does not Work when all the Wealth has been SPENT.

    For two full years Regime SPENT like drunken sailors and now Sobbered up appear to be saying what happened last night and it AINT my FAULT!

    What is the Regimes Plan. All of a Sudden COMPRIMISE is the cry. I recall after 2008 election Republicans were told YOU lost get in the back seat of the car. Evidently driving the CAR was not as easy as it LOOKED!

  21. I am not the one defending him. He is crazy and you know it. You are the one trying to make this about Christian while at the same time you defend Mulims that have put a holy war on the world religions.

    Think about what he did and tell me he isn't crazy. His manifesto speaks of Muslims and the Jihad and yet he went after kids in a camp and blew up a government building. Does any of that match up? Nothing this man said or did matches up. But because of your hatred of Christian you can't see what is obvious to everyone but the left like you.

    Every time a crazy does something you try and pin it on Christians and conservatives but when Muslims burn down churchs and kill Jews,Christians,Hindu and Budhist you defend them and act like it is our fault? This guy doesn't have a clear religion or ideology, just like the Giggord shooter. But that doesn't stop you from your demented rants. You liberals never learn.

  22. In Breivik manifesto he hailed Vlad the Impaler as his hero ... aka Dracula.
    His action has nothing to do with Christianity.

  23. Joe is not a Democrat or liberal. He is an anarchist. He said so himself. Are you still an anachist Joe?

  24. Mark,
    He likes Vlad Teppes for one reason. He killed Muslims not because he's associated with the Dracula legend.

    Vlad Teppes was a Voivode of Wallachia and Christian soldier who took up arms at the call of Pope Pius II against the Ottomans when they conquered Constantinople. His father was in the Order of the Dragon earning the Dracul name. The order at that time was committed to fighting the Islamic Turks.

    So your little theory doesn't pan out. He's not some freak who likes Twilight movies and vampire flicks, he's a Christian anti- Muslim machine who perpetrated violence against fellow Christians because they were tolerant of Islam and appreicates that Vlad Teppes killed muslims and was brutal at Pope Pius's request.

    Learn your damn history son.

  25. Anon,
    I prefer Anarcho-syndicalist or left-wing libertarian to straight anarchist.

  26. Chris,
    The guy is seriously disturbed but he has a very clear belief system. He calls himself a cultural conservative and rails against the EU and his own country for things like Feminism, multiculturalism and other liberal ideas.

    He also blames the US and His own country for not supporting Serbia during its genocide of Muslims and instead trying for peace.

    He refers to "Christendom" more than a few times and references known anti-Muslim rulers like Vlad Teppes, along with discussing a rise of the new Knights Templar, a once powerful group of Christian soldiers who gained much power and wealth in the crusades against Muslims.

    Its not muddled or even convoluted. He hates his country and the liberals for not hating Islam. And he killed liberal children because of that hatred.

    Now you can man up and admit that your wrong and that he is and was a conservative who believed in some form of christian orthodxy although not so Christ like of one, or continue to lie and try to deflect.

    I don't defend jihad, nor do i assert such crazy thoughts like yours that 1 out of 30,000 Christians will go kill liberals like you believe Muslims will. i live with, work with, spend personal time with Muslims and i find them no more hostile to me than the assclown conservatives looking to hate on someone.


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