I'm speechless. "Time reports on moments of bigotry and injustice." Really? 70% of Americans and 63% of New Yorkers are bigots now because they oppose the location of the Mosque? We are now being compared to Nazi sympathizers? I didn't think this controversy could become more surreal, but it just did. This and the ground zero Imam's wife called Americans Islamophobic and haters of Islam. I think these idiots have their stories backwards. Isn't it Islam that hates America and want to kill Americans? It's funny how these "moderates" Muslims sound radical when you actually listen to them. I'm getting sick of these radicals spitting in our face and then telling us we did it. They have held up the building of the St. Nickolas Church that used to be there but give everything they can to put up a Mosque at ground zero. And then they tell us we are Islamophobic. It's time we treat them the way they treat us. I'm sick of them telling us we need to be sensative to them when they are as insencative as they get. Have we forgotten that it isn't us that called for a Jihad?
This is because they have no other excuse for why there is an opposition of this magnitude.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, playing the race card. This time it's on the overwhelming majority of American...
Even some on the left. So I guess Reid and Dean are racist, too... I KNEW IT! lol
Moderate Muslims Appear Not To Be Sensative To Citizens Concerns Regarding The Location. Truely Moderate Muslim Citizens Would See That Concern And Join In Talks Regarding Concerns Of Mosque Being Built At That Location.
ReplyDeleteIt All Comes Back To Different Cultures Assimulating To Our Culture In Our Country And NOT The Other Way Around.
I Must Have Slept Through When Constitution Was Changed Regarding Debate And Demonstrations On Any Issue.
Since Community Orgaizer Feels Both Ways On Issue Leadership From Regime Is As Usual POOF!
Chris, opnce again your culture warrior aspect is creating nonsensical arguments about something that shouldn't be an issue.
ReplyDeleteThe Cultural center/mosque is not at ground zero, thus it doesn't violate any code written or not written. You can't even see it from ground zero from what I've read and seen.
The church at ground zero and this center are not interconnected. For how many years did the right not care about the church or not mention it? In fact the cultural center flap has only benefited the Church as the rights factually incorrect assertions have brought attention to its plight. (you guys did some good...yea.)
Finally the single greatest contributor to the Imans causes benefits greatly from the coverage against it and the rights devotion to Fox News. In some tragic circle of hate, the 2nd largest owner of NewsCorp is also one of the Cordoba Initiative biggest supporters.
This whole thing is ludicrous.
That Greek Church That Was Bargining With Port Authority Almost Since It Was Destroyed On 911 Should Have Been News Just For That Fact!
ReplyDeleteHow Long Did It Take Port Authority To OK Mosque For Construction? One Year ,Two ,Three Or Nine? Just Wondering How Mosque Could Get OK Before They Owned All The Property At Their Site Or Funds Available For The Construction. My Opinion Will Always Be Mosque Should Be Built Some Where More Sensitive To New Yorkers Who Lost Loved Ones. IMAN And His Religon Could Show Non Muslims In Our Country Their Compassion For Victims Of The Terrorist Act By Simpley Moving Location But Evidently Tolerence With Them Moves In Only One Direction! Just My Opinion.
Joe said,"The Cultural center/mosque is not at ground zero, thus it doesn't violate any code written or not written. You can't even see it from ground zero from what I've read and seen." Wrong Joe it is ground zero since the wheel of the plane hit that building on 9/11. Joe we have been mentioning the lack of progress being done at ground zero you just haven't cared until now. Nothing is getting done at groun d zero because of the burocracy is holding it up. But that same burocracy that is holding up the ground zero Church is greesing the wheeles for the ground zero Mosque. They are interconnected by the same burocracy Joe. Sorry you didn't choose to see that through your hate of all things Christian and right wing. Yes News Corp. is loosly connected to Rupert Murdoch so why wont the left wing media do their job and find out who else is funding this Mosque in an illegal way? Why is it you libs are now against the funding of this Mosque when Murdoch is loosly connected too it? You libs are impotent and laughable.
ReplyDeleteAl, Did the Port authority have to okay it? I couldn't find anything that connects the building to the port authority. Also the issue with the port authority ok is not about building it.
ReplyDeleteChris, you and Mark should take some time and school your own side.
The port authority and the church was in discussions for Port Authority money to be used to re-build the Church, something none of these guys have told you. They ain't holding up the building they holding up the funding.
In fact i think the Church was going to get 20 million
"The Port Authority and the church announced a deal in July 2008 under which the Port Authority would grant land and up to $20 million to help rebuild the church -- in addition, the authority was willing to pay up to $40 million to construct a bomb-proof platform underneath."
And here's the reality...
"St. Nicholas Orthodox Church has always had and will continue to have the right to rebuild on its original location. The question was whether public money would be spent to build a much larger church at a separate location on the site and ensuring that construction wouldn't delay the World Trade Center further," spokesman Stephen Sigmund said in a written statement. "On that question, we worked for many years to reach an agreement and offered up to 60 million dollars of public money to build that much larger new church. After reaching what we believed was an agreement in 2008, representatives of the church wanted even more public commitments, including unacceptable approvals on the design of the Vehicle Security Center that threatened to further delay the construction on the World Trade Center and the potential for another $20 million of public funds.
So much for your theories Al.
It's great to know that so many have joined us as racists.
ReplyDeleteJoe Church Destroyed By Terrorist And Rebuilt With Public Funds. Does Not Our Government Rebuild Public Schools Buildings Destroyed By Terrorist In Foregin Countries So The Public Funding Thingy Does Not Hold Water. If We Can Rebuild In Other Nations Public Building We Should And Must Be Able To Do Same Here In Attack Of This Nature.
ReplyDeleteWhat Do You Think Of IMAN Not Showing The Same Kind Of Tolerance/Compassion He Expects From Our Citizens ,Could Eliminate This Issue In About A Minute. Move Mosque Outside WTC Area.
IMAN On Middle East Tour To Get Funding For Mosque. You Would Think Funding Would Come Before OK To Build. Whos Funding The Mosque And How Do We Know Terrorist Orgaizations Are Not. IMAN Refuses To Say Hamas Terrorist Orgaization. WHY?
Chris,
ReplyDeleteFirst off the bureaucracy of ground zero is the Port Authority, not the The New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission which okay'd the Cordoba iniative request. Please stop being intentional misleading when using terms like bureaucracy instead the authorities that actually govern the respective areas.
Second, when was the first and last post about St. Nick?
Third, another intentional deceit, Rupert Murdoch is founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of News Corporation, but thats not who i was referring to. I was referring to the Saudi prince-alwaleed who is part owner in News Corp. Murdoch is loosely affiliated with News Corp....LMFAO.
Brilliant work. you lied, you deceived and your misdirected. All in a rightwinger days work.
They'er just fingers of the same hand Joe. It's still bureaucracy Joe. It looks like Joe is part of the 30%. I wonder why?
ReplyDeleteBrilliant Work. You Lied, You Deceived And Your Misdirected. All That In The 2008 Presidental Regimes Campaign , I Assume Thats What You Were Talking About And On That We Can Agree. You Are Talking About Transparentsy Arent Ya?
ReplyDeleteThe Messiah's polls are showing the following:
ReplyDelete1. On Healthcare Reform - He's going under for the third time with polling well Under 50 percent, even within his own Party. Even though he might be able to Muscle a Healthcare Reform Bill by using Chicago BULLY tactics against his Fellow Democrats, it will just make things worse.
2. On Cap and Trade (Cap and Tax) - The Fat-Lady is already singing.
3. On the Stimulus Package (Tax and Spend) - His popularity is in FREE-FALL.
4. On the TARP package he took and ran with from President Bush - It's all but Good-Night Irene.
5. On the closing of GITMO and "HIS" war on what he no longer wants called the War On Terrorism - He's standing in quicksand with his head just about to go under.
6. On a Comparison between himself and George W. Bush at the same six months into Their respective first term Presidencies - Bush is ahead of him in the Polls.
7. On a comparison between He Who Walks On Water and the 12 preceding Presidents between WW II and now - Obama ranks 10th.
8. On a Poll just Conducted, that asks who would you vote for today between Obama and Mitt Romney - It's a dead heat. Between Obama and Palin - Obama's ONLY ahead by 8 Points and she hasn't even begun to campaign. It seems to me that Obama Wants to be everywhere where he shouldn't be.
He's personally invested in 'totally insulting' America 's ONLY REAL Middle Eastern ally ( Israel ) in favor of Palestinian Despots and Murderers. He's traveling the world apologizing for the USA while lecturing others on how to do it right, when in fact and truth he has no experience at doing anything other than getting elected.
He went to the Muslim world in Egypt to declare that America IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION while he heaped praises on Islam, where he compared the "plight" of the Palestinians to the Holocaust.
The Russians think he's a putz, The French think he's rude.
The Germans want him to stop spending.
The Indians want him to mix his nose out of their environmental business.
The North Koreans think he's a joke.
The Iranians won't acknowledge his calls.
And the British can't even come up with a comprehensive opinion of him.
As for the Chinese, he's too frightened to even glance their way. [After All, China now owns a large portion of the United States.]
Maybe if America's first Emperor would stay home more, travel less, and work a little bit instead of being on television just about everyday or stop running to "papered" Town Hall Meetings, perhaps he would have a little bit of time to do the work of the nation.
In all fairness, it wasn't HARD to be RIGHT in my prediction concerning Obama's presidency, even in its first six months, so I'm going to make yet another prediction:
OBAMA WILL PROBABLY NOT FINISH HIS 4-YEAR TERM, at least not in a Conventional way.
He is such a political HORROR SHOW, and so detrimental to the USA and his Own Democratic Party, that the Democrats themselves will either FORCE him to Resign or figure out a way to have him thrown out.
Or - MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, the Democrats will make Obama THEIR OWN LAME DUCK PRESIDENT.
I don't believe the Democrats have nearly as much love for their country as they do for their own political fortunes. And with Obama, their fortunes are rapidly becoming toast.
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