They did it! Americans wanted the Boehner plan that balances the budget even though the Democrats resisted fiscal responsibility. This whole time the Democrats put the whole thing on the Republican Party. The Democrats and President Obama never gave a viable responsible plan to cut, cap and balance our debt.
The thanks should go out to all of you Tea Party conservatives for telling the Republicans to hold the line. They did something that Democrats refused to do. They listened to the voters that want the budget balance and the mindless spending to stop. If it wasn't for you conservatives the Republican Party would have folded like they always have in the past. You conservatives worked hard and gave Congress a backbone.
Now the Democrats have to do something for a change. They can't just sit back and tare apart the work of those that are doing all the work. The Democrats and Obama have been doing nothing. But the ball is in their court now. If the Democrats don't pass this or the President veto's it, they will be blamed 100%. Now for the kicker. If the Democrats in the Senate and President Obama pass this bill they will lose their far left, "get out the vote" minion. Can you say win win for conservatives and our Party? The spot light is on those that have done nothing but bitch and complain about the only Party doing the work to save America.
All eyes are on the Democratic Party in the Senate and our impotent President. Let's see what happens when they are forced to lead this country. Will the Democratic Party and Obama screw over the American people or will they screw over their base of anarchist liberals?
Our job as conservative Tea Partyers isn't over yet. We must call our Senators and Obama to tell them what we want them to do. Put the pressure on the Democrats now. Make them listen to We the People. We wanted out deficit spending and mindless spending to stop. We wanted a balanced budget. Make sure the Democrats remember that we control them.
Great job Tea Party patriots. Congress couldn't have done it without you! Keep up the good work and call up the President and your Senator to tell them what you want them to do. Send out an email and tell your friends to call. One last surge and we will be on the right track to fixing our spending problem in Washington.
I'd like to know your thoughts on this. Your comments are what makes this blog so great.
They did it! Americans wanted the Boehner plan that balances the budget even though the Democrats resisted fiscal responsibility. This whole time the Democrats put the whole thing on the Republican Party. The Democrats and President Obama never gave a viable responsible plan to cut, cap and balance our debt. The thanks should go out to all of you Tea Party conservatives for telling the Republicans to hold the line. They did something that Democrats refused to do. They listened to the voters that want the budget balance and the mindless spending to stop. If it wasn't for you conservatives the Republican Party would have folded like they always have in the past. You conservatives worked hard and gave Congress a backbone.
Now the Democrats have to do something for a change. They can't just sit back and tare apart the work of those that are doing all the work. The Democrats and Obama have been doing nothing. But the ball is in their court now. If the Democrats don't pass this or the President veto's it, they will be blamed 100%. Now for the kicker. If the Democrats in the Senate and President Obama pass this bill they will lose their far left, "get out the vote" minion. Can you say win win for conservatives and our Party? The spot light is on those that have done nothing but bitch and complain about the only Party doing the work to save America.
All eyes are on the Democratic Party in the Senate and our impotent President. Let's see what happens when they are forced to lead this country. Will the Democratic Party and Obama screw over the American people or will they screw over their base of anarchist liberals?
Our job as conservative Tea Partyers isn't over yet. We must call our Senators and Obama to tell them what we want them to do. Put the pressure on the Democrats now. Make them listen to We the People. We wanted out deficit spending and mindless spending to stop. We wanted a balanced budget. Make sure the Democrats remember that we control them.
Great job Tea Party patriots. Congress couldn't have done it without you! Keep up the good work and call up the President and your Senator to tell them what you want them to do. Send out an email and tell your friends to call. One last surge and we will be on the right track to fixing our spending problem in Washington.
I'd like to know your thoughts on this. Your comments are what makes this blog so great.
I'm thrilled to read this. As you said - now we'll see what the President and the democrats do.
ReplyDeleteBoehner has done his job. If the Senate doesn't move this along and send it to the President and if he fails to ink it, ANY default is on the dems head, period.
ReplyDeleteWoo, woo they decided to ignore any chance of being responsible and getting a deal done by engaging in self flagellation. What a bunch of assclowns. The world, but not the conservative base is well aware of the moral inepitude of the elected republicans and their deceptions.
ReplyDeleteHad any of the right's base read the Bruce Bartlett piece they would see that their own agenda and policies caused this debt ceiling vote. go blame Barack people are waking up to the rightwing lies. By the new year all hopes of a conservative president will be dead.
when are they going to address abortion? Strange that no matter how important it is they never make a big push to truly end it. If they ended abortion 1/3 of the base wouldn't vote anymore.
ReplyDeleteSuckers.
PLEASE read and forward to all your e-mail contacts, and post on your Face-book page if you have one... This is getting serious
ReplyDeleteDear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised.
Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?
Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?
Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?
Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Repost if you agree
Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money....
Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!!
If you agree repost this & keep it going across the whole USA.
Thank you
In God We Trust - All others Pay Cash
Is that why Obama's aproval rating has plumited to 40% this week?
ReplyDeleteThe Republicans have been busy saving this country from the ineptatude of it's lack of leadership. The Democrats are the ones going after their social issues and screwing the economy and jobs. Once Obama loses in 2012 and the Senate is in the hands of the Republicans that is when they will have the power to do something about the killing of our future generations and blacks.
You would have to be a real dumby to say something like that Joe. The Republicans only control 1/2 of 1/3 of our government. Keep licking windows and calling the Norwegian murder a Christian. It just proves how out of reality and mindless you are. Keep up the good work Joe. LOL
I find it totally unbelievable that Obama's ratings have dropped when the mainstream press hacks are literally propping him up with all they can muster - makes me hope that maybe America is finally waking up..... I'm sick of this whole mess - both houses of Congress are doing a kabuki dance while the president chimes in with 'The sky is falling! The sky is falling!' A pox on all of 'em (except the few TP principled folks who dug in)
ReplyDeleteI will never vote for a Democrat again. Most Democrats can see right through their games. When the debt was under $10 trillion every Dem I knew was bitching about it. Now that it is $14.4 trillion all my Dem friends are singing a different tune. It's as if they have no brain or reasoning. If we do what the Dems and WH want we will be over $24 trillion in the next 11 years. Not to mention the State and City bailouts coming our way. Obama and the Dems want someone else to deal with this problem. That is why I will never ever vote for a Dem again.
ReplyDeleteI respect the TP a lot more then either party. They speak for the people.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama may have lost a direct hand in the debt-limit negotiations, but some of his liberal base is still seething at the concessions he was willing to make to Republicans — especially Social Security and Medicare cuts that may yet be in the offing.
ReplyDeleteWhen a few hundred liberal activists protested outside the Capitol on Thursday, they vented most of their frustrations at Republican lawmakers — especially the Tea Party caucus — who called for deep cuts to safety net programs in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. But they also blamed Obama for agreeing to put entitlement programs on the bargaining table at all.
Senate Republicans want a 60-vote threshold for a debt-limit bill to pass the chamber, but it's actually Democrats who are enforcing the filibuster on their own legislation, insisting on delaying a vote until 1 a.m. today.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans offered to let the vote happen last night, just minutes after the chamber voted to halt a House Republican bill. All sides expect Democrats' bill will fail too, and the GOP said senators might as well kill both at the same time so that negotiations could move on to a compromise.
"We would be happy to have that vote tonight," Sen. Mitch McConnell, Republicans' leader, offered.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has frequently accused Republicans of playing partisan politics in the debt ceiling crisis. "The moment for partisan games is long since passed," Reid said on July 21. "It is time for patriots on both sides of the aisle to join hands and actually govern." On July 26, Reid released a statement headlined REPUBLICANS PUT POLITICS AHEAD OF THE ECONOMY. And on July 24, Reid cast himself as a bipartisan compromiser, trying to talk sense into his partisan adversaries. "We hope Speaker Boehner will abandon his 'my way or the highway' approach," Reid said, "and join us in forging a bipartisan compromise."
ReplyDeleteA look at Reid's record, however, shows that in the last decade his own voting on the issue of the debt ceiling is not only partisan but perfectly partisan. According to "The Debt Limit: History and Recent Increases," a January 2010 report by the Congressional Research Service, the Senate has passed ten increases to the debt limit since 2000. Reid never voted to increase the debt ceiling when Republicans were in control of the Senate, and he always voted to increase the debt ceiling when Democrats were in control.
Other Democrats have also accused Republicans of partisanship in the debt fight. "It's time for bipartisan leadership, not partisan gamesmanship," said the number-two Democrat in the Senate, Richard Durbin, after Republicans pulled out of budget talks with President Obama. And Obama himself described the debt debate as a "partisan three-ring circus" -- leaving no doubt that it is Republicans who are practicing partisanship.
The Democrats have made many concessions when it comes to what’s going on here, and even the Tea Party position it appears to most people remains rigid. The question is, have you made your point? And by continuing to go on with this, do you feel like you‘re overreaching and that you’re going to lose the clout? We will not let the teabaggers get their way without a fight.
ReplyDeleteYour beloved Jews are rioting like animals in Isreal.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteI see your stuck only on defending him as a Christian. Your silence in the face of facts that he is a conservative who hates Islam like you is deafening.
Care to tell me he's not a anti-muslim conservative?
So they keep everything secret until the last minute and then spring it on the Congress and public?
ReplyDeleteWhere is the transparency in that?!
Time to quit acting like an abused spouse and making excuses. Obama is a huge disappointment.
I think it may be time to let the Republicans put in a far right President, perhaps then the country will see what it means. Because really, having Obama in there isn't so much better anyway.
Who the h*ll knows how any of this will help anyone. All we can be sure of is that what the Americans really need to protect them and what would put millions back to work won't be addressed.
JHC Joe who cares about the anti-muslim murder? How many f@cking muslims did he kill? He is crazy,period. Get your head out of your a$$ and face what is happening in THIS country. If you think that Obama is doing a good job then tell me why? Has he closed Gitmo? What about the wars he has gotten us into? Has he ended or started wars? Our debt was $10.6 trillion now it is $14.4 trillion and growing. I didn't vote for this. Take a look at the Huffington Post comments section. Find one happy Democrat comment. Everyone is bailing this guy.
Obama has no backbone whatsoever. He has the GOP tire print on his skull. They've vowed to defeat him, and surely, he's folded like yesterday's newspaper as McConnell said he would, in so many words.
ReplyDeleteIn 2012, we should be working to defeat as many Republicans as possible in the US Congress and State Assemblies. Someone in the
Democratic Party needs to step up and oppose Obama in a primary. Obama is not fit for a second term. He's been just as good as a Republican during this one and only term he will serve. The Clintons in 2012. Bill can be the VP.
"when are they going to address abortion" when are you going to stay on subject?
ReplyDeleteReid and Obama are idiots! The Democrats will never sign on to this idiotic bill. This bill is all about the moderates and ballance. The republicans only control 1/3 of DC and somehow that got what they wanted. The Democratic Party is Weak and full of Pussies if they sign this idiotic bill! If you baggers get your way I'll frinking lose it. I wont be alone.
ReplyDeleteDon't be mad at us we didn't vote for him. LOL. You liberals lost it long before this happened.
ReplyDeleteMark, Joe has to change the subject because he can't face the truth of this subject. Even his fellow liberals know he is as goofy as that psychotic murderer in Norway.
I can't beleive how cranked up the liberals are right now. I hope they don't get violent and destroy property and hurt people like they always do when they don't get everything they want.
It may be above my pay grade but what was actually accomplished? Republicans compromised with who?
ReplyDeleteI am not happy with either party and this agreement does nothing to change my position. Tea Party gets slammed for insisting on SPENDING reform. Hope we can get to one more election heck we might have to borrow for the country to afford 2012? This agreement accomplishes NOTHING!
There are a lot of Republicans tonight willing to play the fool for the GOP in this debt ceiling plan. They say, for example, that there will be no tax increases from this super committee. Never mind that the Democrats are saying otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI can prove to you right now that there will be tax increases.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) expects the Bush tax cuts to expire. So all the commission has to do is two things: extend middle class Bush tax cuts and enact a permanent alternative minimum tax (AMT) patch. Those two together would look like an increase to the deficit in CBO scoring. So then the commission can start out of the gate with the ability to create several trillion dollars in new tax hikes to equal out to the cuts — cuts that will happen even without the commission most likely. And where will those cuts come from? Those making $250,000.00 or more, of course. And probably the Gang of 6′s ideas to eliminate most deductions to income taxes without revenue neutral rate reductions and the Gang of 6′s pièce de résistance — raising capital gains taxes from 15% to 28%.
Have people not been paying attention? In every single address the President has given on the debt ceiling, he has insisted on new tax revenue. John Boehner even put $800 billion on the table, so it is already there.
The House and Senate GOP leadership may have convinced themselves that they have snookered the Democrats, but even little ole me, a non-budget genius, can drive a truck through their argument. And their best response probably comes from Ryan Ellis of Americans for Tax Reform. That counter argument is best summed up as but . . . but . . . but . . . the House Leadership says so. And if puppies were unicorns, we’d all live in a fantasy land.
Apparently, young lefty Ezra Klein who thinks no one pays attention to the constitution because, dude, it’s so old, is brighter than Ryan Ellis at ATR. Klein writes, “Boehner is misleading his members to make them think taxes are impossible under this deal. The Joint Committee could close loopholes and cap tax expenditures. It could impose a value-added tax, or even a tax on carbon.”
There will be tax increases. The Deficit Commission will have at least one weak kneed Republican and the commission will only be as strong as its weakest link. The Bush tax cuts will also absolutely expire and not be renewed.
The alternative for the GOP would be seeing massive defense cuts and being blamed for senior citizens seeing their medicare cut. “But,” House Republican leaders exclaim, “the cuts would not be to beneficiaries.”
True, the cuts would be punishing doctors who will respond by denying access to medicare patients.
The Democrats are happy to force through taxes in the committee and then, when the GOP opposes them, claim the GOP would rather hurt our soldiers and seniors than raise taxes on “fat cat millionaires.”
And if we’ve learned nothing else these past few weeks, the GOP fears more than anything else what the Democrats say about them. Don’t believe me on taxes, then ask GOP leadership why they haven’t put in a clear statement prohibiting them or, even better, why there is no prohibition on decoupling the middle class Bush tax cuts from the upper income Bush taxes cuts.Last week in the Washington Post, the GOP Leadership in Congress planted a hit job about me. How do I know they planted it? If not obvious from the story itself, it was from the conversation between the reporter and those she talked to.
ReplyDeleteOne of the “attacks” on me was that I was too predictable. Yes, it is true. I am predictable conservative and am not willing to sell out my conservatism for the team. I hate to break it to you.
I was sorely tempted to do so now with this deal as our guys are running scared and are convinced the August 2nd deadline is real. But the GOP is in denial, excited by left wing hyperbole against the deal, and unable to see what is on the horizon.
There are stories in the press that (A) the White House and Treasury Department won’t give the GOP information about how much money the U.S. has on hand and (B) that both Democrat and Republican leaders are mad as hell that the markets haven’t crashed so they could scare conservatives into taking a deal.
It is true — Republican and Democrat leaders are upset the market has not crashed.
Now, having run out the clock and admitted that Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell wrote John Boehner’s plan (that was in the Washington Post), they now want to go back to a grand compromise that yet again includes a super committee of Congress that can pass tax increases with no way to block the committee.
And if they do somehow stop the committee or kill its idea, then our soldiers in the field would see punitive cuts to the defense budget, even more so than seniors who will see cuts to medicare. In other words, cuts so painful to right and left that both will have to take the committee recommendation.
“But it’s okay,” they tell us. “The committee is structured in such a way that they can’t get tax increases.” Having considered the matter carefully — this is utter bullcrap.
So here’s what will happen. The people who are predictably willing to fold to save face with the GOP will ridicule you, me, and the tea party. And in November, when the chickens come home to roost and what I predict comes true yet again, they’ll pretend yet again that they were with us the whole time.
But taxes will go up and the Democrats will have won, left wing hysteria notwithstanding.
The 2012 budget: At one point in the negotiations, the 2012 budget was to be slashed by $36 billion. The final number of cuts: just $7 billion. And just to ensure we don’t have another bruising government shutdown fight over cuts in September, the deal deems and passes the 2012 budget. Yes, that’s right, the old Gephardt Rule or Slaughter Solution, is back. What’s deem and pass? It’s a legislative trick that essentially means that Congress will consider the budget passed without ever actually having to vote on it.
ReplyDeleteThe trigger: This is counterintuitive, but the trigger is actually pretty good for Democrats. For all that MoveOn thinks that it would force benefit cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, it actually wouldn’t trigger benefit cuts to any entitlements. The only cuts it would force would be a 2% or more haircut for Medicare providers. And House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, along with most Democrats, has never opposed provider cuts. Not only that, most progressives actually want the Pentagon cuts. So if the committee deadlocks and the trigger is pulled, Democrats won’t be miserable.
The commission: Again, for all the liberal carping about a “Super Congress,” the commission of 12 members — three from each party in each chamber — set up to find the second phase of $1.5 trillion in cuts by Thanksgiving is actually rigged to force some revenue increases. Yes, the Bush tax cuts are off the table. But there are plenty of loops holes, subsidies and other corporate welfare programs that are on the table. And with such a strong trigger, it’s hard to imagine at least one Republican not voting to kill corporate jet subsidies over slashing $500 billion from the defense budget – even if the revenues aren’t offset. The question is: who are Republicans more afraid of, Grover Norquist or the joint chiefs? Democrats’ money is on the joint chiefs.
The immediate cuts: It may seem like a lot, but the $917 billion in the first phase of cuts were carefully negotiated by Vice President Joe Biden and his group. They include $350 billion in Pentagon cuts – a win for liberals. They don’t touch entitlement benefits, another win. And they set top line numbers for the next decade of budgets that aren’t draconian. It still cuts where liberals might prefer to spend, but most of the savings are backloaded to avoid extreme austerity in next few years of fragile economic recovery. Just $7 billion would be cut in 2012, and only $3 billion in 2013. And of that combined $10 billion, half would come from the Pentagon.
The debt ceiling: Raising the debt ceiling through 2013 will not be contingent on the second round of cuts. There will merely be a vote of disapproval. This avoids another messy fight in January and another round of painful forced cuts.
Yes logic has failed. These thugs in the tea party are dead set on destroying our economy and our country.
ReplyDeleteSo contribute something if you have it, but stop crying about a little name calling and hurt feelings, because if the teabaggers get there way you will be longing for the day when it was only your feelings that were hurt.
We are in crisis mode here. We have to do something drastic to stop them from crushing the middle class and turning everyone in this country into the working poor. We've tried logic and reasoning and intellect for years, the problem is the teabaggers understand none of this. So yeah, I'm going to call names and yell and scream and cuss until people wake the heck up and understand what an imminent threat to the American way of life they are.
WE HAVE NO TIME LEFT. WE FIGHT NOW. WE MUST DESTROY THEM BEFORE THEY DESTROY AMERICA.
Bruce, we 'teabagger' are fighting for the future of this country to be a free market, less government, constitutional limiting, capitalist society that it has been since its inception.
ReplyDeleteWe are fighting back at the extreme minority that wants a European social society for our nation.
You liberals and Rino have brought this country to this point.
We're taking it back!
Chris,
ReplyDeleteI stay on topic most of the time. just as much as Mark, CP, al, or you do. Hell you change topics on your own thread.
You even brought the Norwegian conservative terrorist up in a post without a word about it from anyone. Total topic Fail on your part.
Hypocrite. LMAO you make it so easy. Accusing me of going off topic when you did too. LMFAO!!!
Joe you have yet to post one comment on this topic. Joe you need to reread my post.I said..."Mark, Joe has to change the subject because he can't face the truth of this subject." Thanks for proving my point and not even make one comment on the topic. You need to try and stay lucid. A lot is going on right now and you are in a stooper that can't even post a comment on the subject at hand before he goes of topic. I'm sure you do a lot of LMFAO with the crap you are smoking.
ReplyDeleteYour party and president is going to screw you libs big time. Everyone is bailing on you liberal fools. Even your own liberal representatives are going to the middle. I just went on both MoveOn and HuffPo and read the comments. Those libtard are cracked and down right scary.
Well said Mark. If you want a great laugh take a look at the liberal blogs... They are bailing on Obama in droves. Just like they are here. Joe wont even comment because he knows the truth but wont say it or face it. Obama sucks and now liberals agree with us. hahahahahaha hehehe. Knowing that alone should make all Tea Partiers and Republicans happy. If we can unseat Obama and take the Senate we can get some real work done. Americans are waking up to how government works. And they now realize that it was Congress that gave us the surplus and gave us the debt.
ReplyDeleteThe Tea Party didn't start this fire ,they just sounded the alarm.
ReplyDeleteAn alarm that the democrats could care less about becase they always know where the money will come from to pay for their spending addiction.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteWell you got something right for once. It was congress that gave us the surplus. The 92 and 94 Democratically controlled congress gave us the surplus and the Republican controlled 2000 congress gave us the debt. I showed you that in the Bruce Bartlett piece you didn't even read.
Why would i not comment? I'm not chickenshit like you. I think Obama made a mistake in letting conservatives get their way. I'm not happy with him right now. I'm actually hoping that Hilary considers running against him.
The only silver lining in this dark, dark cloud is that the conservative may experience a big case of be careful what you ask for you might just get it. A very likely outcome of the cuts to spending is the economy not growing and becoming like Japan. This could prove deadly to the Tea Party. One can only hope.
Mark,
I don't know where you came up with that. Did they email you that in the Talking Points? The Tea Party and its crazed followers don't believe in any of that. They have continually showed it in their actions. The Tea Party has demanded that the WH defend DOMA, which is clearly unconstitutional and most assuredly not smaller government? Its a total joke. The Tea Party wouldn't know a libertarian if Bob Barr married their daughter.
Joe, I get my "talking points" of my own accord, through a thought process of common sense and reality.
ReplyDeleteThey absolutely do believe in ALL of that and if you can't even see they are fighting for all those things, even for you, you're naive to the movement.
And please show me in the constitution where is points to DOMA? Just cause the President says it unconstitutional, doesn't make it so.
You you seem to not only be crazy but also a chicken shit. Why is it Democrat want to raise the debt and raise spending but you somehow think that they made cuts? Could it be you are just battshit crazy? You can't have it both ways.
ReplyDeleteYour'e so right. I'm there with you. Your blog is unquestionably worth a read if anybody comes across it. I'm lucky I did because now Ive acquired a whole new view of this. I didn't realise that this issue was so important and so universal. You surely put it in perspective for me.
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