Thursday, July 28, 2011

Open Thread On The Debt Crisis

While liberals and the MSM are trying to say that the Norwegian murder is equivalent to the Muslims that have killed thousands of people in Sudan alone we are focused on what is happening in this country. If the left-wing of this country think that the Norwegian killer is equivalent to the travesties the Muslims have done in the name of Allah and the Qua ran I can't argue with that. As you can't argue with crazy. So while they have their turret like rants about that nonsense we will look at reality.
Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing dire consequences to society, including their interference with the question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.”
Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent)  and the fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aishawhen she was 6-years-old, “consummating” the marriage—or, in modern parlance, raping her—when she was 9.
It turns out that liberals and the Qua ran have a lot in common.
Fawzan reportedly illustrates this point by quoting Ibn Batal’s authoritative religious text Sahih Bukhari:
The ulema [Islam’s interpreters] have agreed that it is permissible for fathers to marry off their small daughters, even if they are in the cradle.  But it is not permissible for their husbands to have sex with them unless they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men.  And their capability in this regard varies based on their nature and capacity.  Aisha was 6 when she married the prophet, but he had sex with her when she was 9 [i.e., when she was deemed capable].
Fawzan then  reportedly concludes his fatwa with the warning:
“It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit.  For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other.  And among these are the rules governing marriage.”
FP reminds us that Fawzan is not the first Islamic leader to legitimize pedophilia in Islam and that the former grand mufti of Saudi Arabia himself also supported “child-marriage,” citing the Quran and Sunna as proof.
Needless to say many young girls are falling victim such rulings. FP relates the circumstances surrounding the horrific death of a 13 year old girl who was reportedly raped and killed by her husband:
Recall, for instance, the 13-year-old girl who died while her much older husband was copulating with her (it was later revealed that, due to her reluctance, he was tying her up and “raping” her—as if there is another way to describe sex with children); or the 12-year-old who died giving birth to a stillborn; or the 10-year-old who made headlines by hiding out from her 80-year-old “husband.”
But there are likely numerous other instances that go unreported as the victims’ fear bringing any attention that might result in further abuse, or even their murder.
Where are the human rights abuse investigations at times like these? You can't ague with crazy. So while the rest of us debate the real issue of our debt, the liberals can keep trying to prove their point that Christians are the problem and one murder is equivalent to what Muslims have done and the Qua ran says to do.


  1. Did you hear about the LA riots? Over 1,000 rioters. The liberals are saying they are Christian conservatives...LOL

  2. The New York Times wasted no time in jumping to conclusions about Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian who staged two deadly attacks in Oslo last weekend, claiming in the first two paragraphs of one story that he was a "gun-loving," "right-wing," "fundamentalist Christian," opposed to "multiculturalism."

    It may as well have thrown in "Fox News-watching" and "global warming skeptic."

    This was a big departure from the Times' conclusion-resisting coverage of the Fort Hood shooting suspect, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. Despite reports that Hasan shouted "Allahu Akbar!" as he gunned down his fellow soldiers at a military medical facility in 2009, only one of seven Times articles on Hasan so much as mentioned that he was a Muslim.

    Of course, that story ran one year after Hasan's arrest, so by then, I suppose, the cat was out of the bag.

    In fact, however, Americans who jumped to conclusions about Hasan were right and New York Times reporters who jumped to conclusions about Breivik were wrong.

  3. Yet another muslim terrorist at Fort Hood. Damn those "Christian Norwegians" and "conservative extreemists"!

  4. To to chris,
    yes, we're accusing thousands of conservatives of having good taste in free music and wanting to see it. LOL we're not.

    But the Norwegian killer was a conservative. He said so in his manifesto.

  5. Chris,
    I don't compare and contrast the amount of people killed by terrorists, whether conservative fundamentalist Christians or conservative fundamentalism Muslims. All that matters is that they are both dangerous and kill innocents.

    Its quite telling that you post video's of unionists smacking camera's and talk of union violence but when a anti-Muslim cultural conservative kills innocents there's no "Violent conservative" blog.

    We can debate how devout he is and if he even considers himself a Christian, but there is no denying that he shares the same beliefs on Islam that you do. That is the problem, you can't deal with the fact that he is basically a Republican counterpart.

    So you'll argue about the "Christian" title. Deflection.

  6. Chris, what about Conservative/Republican donor Sun Myung Moon who owns and runs the Washington Times and has married plenty of child brides in the 14,15 and 16 year old range.

    Does the fact that he's a republican donor ad apologist make that okay? You only seem to hate the people who aren't on your side for their sins, but not those on your side.


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