I have to agree with Netanyahu. I like this man and I stand with Israel. If we don't stand with them then the Muslim nations around them with "tear them apart and drive them into the ocean". That is their words not mine. These nations and liberals here in this country stand against Israel. We as a nation must stand strong with Israel. Islam and liberalism must not get their way with Israel. If they get their way Israel wont exist. They have all said so. If you stand with Israel post your support.
Below I have included some of the best moments from “Bibby’s” speech.
On why everyone should have walked out of Ahmadinejad’s speech:
Bad press is better then a good eulogy:
On why the U.N. is the “theater of the absurd:”
UN should be sent to Europe without OUR money and the building used for homeless........
ReplyDeleteBush was Right. The UN is irrelevant!
Rip them a new one, Netanyahu!!
ReplyDeleteNetanyahu is exactly the kind of man that the US needs as it's president.
ReplyDeleteI stand with Netanyahu and Israel. He would make a great USA president.
ReplyDeleteThe complex reality of the Palestinian-Isreali theater is typically beyond the scope of conservative lowest common denominator, lack of historical context thinking.
ReplyDeleteIts easy to see from the rantings of Chris and his GOP brethren here that they know little about the whole conflict. They are clearly anti-arab and racist in my view.
Joe you are the anti-Jew racist. Israel is the historic owners of this land. Palistin isn't even mentioned until after the Jews named Jeruselem. In what history text were the "Palistinians" the first owners of Israel?
ReplyDeleteIf the Palistinians get what they want the Jews will no longer exist. Arabs, Christians and Jews live in peace in Israel together. That wont happen if the Muslims get their way and you know it. Jews have no rights when Muslims are in charge. It's in the Quaran. That isn't anti-arab or racist. This is what the Qaran says:3:151 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve."
ReplyDelete4:74 "Fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Why so blind to reality Joe? Is it your hate of the Jews or Christians that fill your heart? I notice that you and liberals in general do a lot of projecting.
4:76 "Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil."
4:91 "Take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant."
8:12 "I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger."
21:97 "Behold them, staring wide (in terror), the eyes of those who disbelieve!"
33:35-36 "Allah repulsed the disbelievers. ... He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.
59:2 "He it is Who hath caused those of the People of the Scripture who disbelieved to go forth from their homes unto the first exile. Ye deemed not that they would go forth, while they deemed that their strongholds would protect them from Allah. But Allah reached them from a place whereof they recked not, and cast terror in their hearts so that they ruined their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So learn a lesson, O ye who have eyes!"
59:13 "Ye are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteUnlike you, i don't hate a group of people for nothing more than their religion. I don't agree with Israel as a theocratic democracy. That doesn't make me anti-Semitic, that makes me anti-theocracy. I am also anti-theocracy for Muslim and Christian countries too. I choose not to live in any of them.
So we come to the reality that while you are good at using weasel words, like owners of Israel when you know in fact that the family of Abraham traveled to Canaan, you are also not telling the truth. You take an extremely relativist world view. I am convinced that you attempt to do this on purpose as you can't continually be that ignorant as to be caught so many times red handed.
So Israelis are not the original owners. That claim goes to the Canaanites and the Perizzites. There goes that argument of yours.
But in what world do Americans of european descent have any rights to establish historical rights of natives in any country when they still deny their own to this day? You make quite a hypocrite living on Native American land talking about who "owned" Israel first.
The Short of it. Any Nation that has neighbors whos main aim is to EXTERMINATE them for NO other reason than HATE well I gusee I will side with Isreal because its the right thing to do. Now I guess we could give the land back to the Indians,Mexico,France and Russia if it makes some happy but to tell one Nation against many what it should do with its BORDERS is not a solution for peace. Hell WE cannot even secure OUR borders let alone suggest what other Nations should do.
ReplyDeleteOne other note Before giving all the land back will their be classes in Polish before Im deported?
But this isn't about the Canaanites and the Perizzites since they are no longer. The Jews were there before the Palistinians and the Muslims. The history is clear on the Jews owning Israel."There is no such thing as a Palestinian Arab nation . . . Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Eretz Yisrael with the express purpose of infuriating the Jews . . . . Why should we use the spiteful name meant to humiliate us?
ReplyDelete"The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity."
---- Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995
Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today . . . No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
-- from "Myths of the Middle East", Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, WorldNetDaily, 11 October 2000
From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries . . . .
-- Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975
Talk and writing about Israel and the Middle East feature the nouns "Palestine" and Palestinian", and the phrases "Palestinian territory" and even "Israeli-occupied Palestinian territory". All too often, these terms are used with regard to their historical or geographical meaning, so that the usage creates illusions rather than clarifies reality.
WHAT DOES "PALESTINE" MEAN?
It has never been the name of a nation or state. It is a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history when there is no nation or state there.
The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". The name began to be used in the Thirteenth Century BCE, for a wave of migrant "Sea Peoples" who came from the area of the Aegean Sea and the Greek Islands and settled on the southern coast of the land of Canaan. There they established five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of land known as Philistia. The Greeks and Romans called it "Palastina".
The Philistines were not Arabs, they were not Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina" derived from the Peleshet.
HOW DID THE LAND OF ISRAEL BECOME "PALESTINE"?
In the First Century CE, the Romans crushed the independent kingdom of Judea. After the failed rebellion of Bar Kokhba in the Second Century CE, the Roman Emperor Hadrian determined to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea. Therefore, he took the name Palastina and imposed it on all the Land of Israel. At the same time, he changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina.
The Romans killed many Jews and sold many more in slavery. Some of those who survived still alive and free left the devastated country, but there was never a complete abandonment of the Land. There was never a time when there were not Jews and Jewish communities, though the size and conditions of those communities fluctuated greatly.
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ReplyDeleteTHE JEWISH NATIONAL HOME
ReplyDeleteTravellers to Palestine from the Western world left records of what they saw there. The theme throughout their reports is dismal:
The land was empty, neglected, abandoned, desolate, fallen into ruins. Nothing there [Jerusalem] to be seen but a little of the old walls which is yet remaining and all the rest is grass, moss and weeds.
-- English pilgrim in 1590
The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population"
-- British consul in 1857
There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction. . . . One may ride 10 miles hereabouts and not see 10 human beings.
For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a moldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent, mournful expanse... a desolation... We never saw a human being on the whole route... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country... Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes... desolate and unlovely...
-- Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad, 1867
The restoration of the "desolate and unlovely" land began in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century with the first Jewish pioneers. Their labors created newer and better conditions and opportunities, which in turn attracted migrants from many parts of the Middle East, both Arabs and others. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, confirmed by the League of Nations Mandate, commited the British Government to the principle that "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish National Home, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object... " It was specified both that this area be open to "close Jewish settlement" and that the rights of all inhabitants already in the country be preserved and protected.
Mandate Palestine originally included all of what is now Jordan, as well as all of what is now Israel, and the territories between them. However, when Great Britain's protégé Emir Abdullah was forced to leave the ancestral Hashemite domain in Arabia, the British created a realm for him that included all of Manfate Palestine east of the Jordan River. There was no traditional or historic Arab name for this land, so it was called after the river: first Trans-Jordan and later Jordan.
By this political act, that violated the conditions of the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate, the British cut more than 75 percent out of the Jewish National Home. No Jew has ever been permitted to reside in Trans-Jordan/Jordan.
Less than 25 percent then remained of Mandate Palestine, and even in this remnant, the British violated the Balfour and Mandate requirements for a "Jewish National Home" and for "close Jewish settlement". They progressively restricted where Jews could buy land, where they could live, build, farm or work.
After the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel was finally able to settle some small part of those lands from which the Jews had been debarred by the British. Successive British governments regularly condemn their settlement as "illegal". In truth, it was the British who had acted illegally in banning Jews from these parts of the Jewish National Home.
PS Joe, When Muslims take over a country it becomes a theocracy that only respects Muslims.
ReplyDeleteHow about who owns Israel now. Back in the day no one wanted it. Now that it is the homeland of the unwanted Jews the Muslims want it.
ReplyDeletePS Chris, thats how Muslims are treated in Israel.
ReplyDeleteYou posted a quote by an Israeli leader to justify your beliefs. LMAO!!!
Perhaps you would like to read something real about the conflict not the standard talking points from the RNC
http://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html
my new favorite
ReplyDelete“Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French...What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct...If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs... As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regard as an unacceptable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds.” Mahatma Gandhi, quoted in “A Land of Two Peoples” ed. Mendes-Flohr.