Great find Paul. BSNBS oops I mean MSNBC is down 45% while Fox News is up over 55%. It looks like Bruce and his ilk backed the wrong lieing horse. Maybe moveon.org need boycott Keiff Olbertmann it worked for Glenn Becks ratings. Bwaaahahahahhahaa. These libs world is crashing to an end. But it's "faux news" fault. Bwaaahahahaha. Olbortionmann spends most of his time talking about Beck and Fox News. You couldn't buy that kind of advertising. Maddcow does the same thing and she will see the same fate. Who want to see an angry lesbian with no sense of humor every day? I mean other then Bruce?
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's proposed budget, stuffed with initiatives to spark jobs and the economy, is getting an early test with lawmakers weary of record deficits, wary of his tax ideas and nervous about winning re-election in November.
Obama's proposed $5,000-per-job tax credit for companies that hire more workers could come up for a vote in the Senate as early as the end of the week — if senators can work out the details.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and Obama's budget director, Peter Orszag, were to push it during appearances Tuesday before congressional committees to explain the president's $3.8 trillion budget plan. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen also were to be on Capitol Hill to discuss war spending.
Congress rejected the idea of a jobs credit for businesses last year, questioning whether it would work and how to prevent unscrupulous employers from defrauding the government.
Obama also wants to renew some expiring goodies from his stimulus plan last year:
—Another round of $250 bonus payments to Social Security recipients and other retirees.
—Extended jobless benefits and health insurance subsidies for the long-term unemployed.
—Another year of middle-class tax credits of up to $400 for individuals and $800 for couples filing jointly.
But the budget also would impose nearly $1 trillion in higher taxes on couples making more than $250,000 and individuals making more than $200,000 by not renewing tax cuts enacted under former President George W. Bush. Obama would extend Bush-era tax cuts for families and individuals making less.
All told, Obama's tax and spending plan raises more taxes than it cuts, while still posting a record-breaking $1.56 trillion deficit — an amount equal to about 42 cents for every dollar the government is spending.
"It's a budget that reflects the serious challenges facing the country," Obama said. "We're at war. Our economy has lost 7 million jobs over the last two years. And our government is deeply in debt."
It does say Canadas health care is bad though. I have a half brother in Canada and he hates it. He lost a kidney from kidney stones because it took too long to get treatment. If he had the money he would have spent it. But I know Obama would never give us that kind of health care bill. You just have to trust him for a change.
I thought you would all like to see the kind of bigots Jay-Ney and Bruce are. One is a Jew basher the other a Christian Basher. How could anyone listen to these bigots? I'm sure they are both racist too. Bruce Fealk said... Jay-Ney, I rejected one of your comments due to its offenive nature. Just so you know, I was raised Jewish, I've never been a Republican.
That was about as offensive a comment as I've seen in a long time and I won't tolerate that kind of anti-semitism on my blog.
February 2, 2010 2:14 AM
Jay-Ney said... Sorry Bruce I didn't know. I used to be a christian and you have said almost the same things about them. You blame christians and I blame jews. What is the difference? It didn't bother me in the least and it shouldn't bother you. I wont do it again. Are we good?
February 2, 2010 7:36 AM
Bruce Fealk said... Jay-Ney, I don't think I referred to f'ing Christians.
Plus you made a generalization about all Jews being bankers and running the country's banks. That is a stereotype. Christians actually do wield political power and have taken control of the Republican party.
Paul, the reason, in my view, is that there wasn't enough regulation and oversight for TARP from the beginning.
Second, Paul, TARP was a REPUBLICAN PROGRAM FROM GEORGE W. BUSH. Democrats made it better, but it was truly an emergency program. Henry Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury, warned the world economy was on the verge of absolute collapse without an immediate infusion of cash.
The banks, private industry, have taken our money and used it to give out big bonuses, instead of loaning the money to businesses that need capital.
That's not the government's fault.
If anything, Paul, you should be joining the Democrats' call for more regulation over the banking industry. The free market is not working, except for those at the top.
Now there is even more evidence of a money making scam engineered by the "progressives". It's this "Climategate". The Democrats made this crisis out of a house of cards. It has been proven to be a fake crisis manufactured buy some progressive Democrats. Put Cap-N-Trade to rest until we get some real evidence of global warming or global cooling. This proves how far these Democrats are willing to go to get more power away from the people.
JayNey and Bruce you are both sick people. The amount of religious bigotry from you two makes me see what the progressive agenda really is. I can't believe Bruce gets mad at JN and then does the same exact thing about another religion. Bruce, why do you hate Christians so much? It sounds to me like Bruce thinks the Christian Republicans are the enemy. JayNey, why do you hate the Jewish so much? You two are the scariest people I have ever known. You are both no different then the KKK or Nazis. Will you people please wake up to who these people are and what they hate?
"Paul, the reason, in my view, is that there wasn't enough regulation and oversight for TARP from the beginning." Exactly, a failure by government, my exact point. They shoiuld never have done it, but once they did, they weren't able to control it.
"Second, Paul, TARP was a REPUBLICAN PROGRAM FROM GEORGE W. BUSH. Democrats made it better, but it was truly an emergency...."
Why do you insist on putting everything in your partisan box? I said in my original post, "why would we want more GOVERNMENT control of our economy?" That includes both repubs and democrats.
"That's not the government's fault." Yes, it is! They gave them the money and placed no rules/regulations on the program i.e. government failure.
"If anything, Paul, you should be joining the Democrats' call for more regulation over the banking industry. The free market is not working, except for those at the top."
Wake up Bruce! You can't have a "free market" when the government continues to regulate, obstruct and legislation our economy. More regulation is not going to cure what ails our economy. It will improve when our government gets out of the way and let's it happen. That includes democrats, republicans, independents, liberals, conservatives, moderates, progressives and any other label you place on the idiots in Washington.
FAILk and Jay-Ney, I wish they were the exception to the rule, but their bigoted ways ARE THE RULE in the Hypocrat Party. What a bunch of low-lifes. FAILk, did you ever stop to think that maybe there are some Christian Hypocrats and LIEberals?!?! You two are just opposite sides of the same coin. I bet you two would have a good time toasting marshmallows at a cross-burning party.
FAILk says that America has a great health care system, and then says he wants to fix that by having the government take over so it can be like the Canadian system. What a, forgive my language Chris, dumbass FAILk is!! ROFLMAO!!
You're a total idiot FAILk. Government intrusion is the reason health care costs so much. MORE government intrusion will just push us closer to the Canadian/British EPIC FAIL systems. Total government intrusion will give us those systems. You're dumb as a stump. I don't know how you can generate enough brain power to keep your organs functioning.
I hate the hypocrisy of some Christians, a lot of the ones that hang out here. CINO, Christians in Name Only, that don't give a damn about their fellow man. The ones that advocate more war, abolishing civil and human rights and hate gay people and would advocate killing them.
John, you didn't read what I said, idiot. I said America has a great medical system. We have a lousy health care non-system with the private insurance companies coming between people and their doctors.
We have some of the best technology and the best doctors in the world.
That said, too many people can't afford to access the care they need.
One has nothing to do with the other. Just because we have great doctors, hospitals and medical schools, none of that helps if such a large number of our citizens can't get the care they need because of money.
Paul, you can have a reasonably regulated free market. We need regulation to keep the greedy bastards on Wall Street from screwing us again.
A new Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll of Republicans finds that 63% believe that President Obama is a socialist, compared to 21% who say he is not and 16% that are not sure.
The survey also found that 53% believe that Sarah Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama, with 14% who believe Obama is more qualified and 33% who said they were not sure.
"We have some of the best technology and the best doctors in the world".
Guess who does not? Yep socialized systems such as Canada and Britain. What do think will happen to those companies? I will tell you,they will move overseas most likely to India.
A new Public Policy Polling survey in Arkansas finds Rep. John Boozman (R) leading Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D) by a shockingly wide margin, 56% to 33%.
"Lincoln's approval rating has sunk to just 27%, with 62% of voters in the state disapproving of her. She's at a middling 51% even within her own party and just 17% of independents and 9% of Republicans are happy with how she's doing."
Christopher, are you actually bragging about those results? I'm assuming you are. That poll just shows how crazy Republicans and Teabaggers are even crazier, since they weren't included in the poll.
Christopher, a lot of American are going overseas to have surgery done in India and other countries because they can get it done cheaper. It's called medical tourism. What does that say to you Christopher?
"Paul, you can have a reasonably regulated free market. We need regulation to keep the greedy bastards on Wall Street from screwing us again." Try again Bruce.
A free market is, well, FREE! The minute you put regulations on it, it is no longer free. What you're talking about is a "Mixed Economy". If you are going to be part of the debate, then use the proper terms. And please explain, what is the proper amount of regulations and who gets to decide?
Bruce I'm getting sick of your bitry towards Christians. As John said it best you are two sides of the same coin when it comes to being a bigot. You are just now saying it's the CINO's you are talking about. But your many posts that bash Christians is getting out of control bigotry.
Bruce why wont the Democrats put in TORT reform in the health care reform bill? What would it hurt to have TORT reform put into the bill? The Democrats talk about partisanship until it comes to doing it. There are no talking points. This is what the people want and why wont the Democrats give us TORT REFORM in this bill?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
How does taking more money from the rich fat cats on Wall Street help we the people? How does it help the middle class? How does it creat jobs? How does it divide the American people into a class system???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Christopher, great find on those polls. It must make the libs heads spine knowing that Palin has a higher approval then Obama. Know I see why the libs are going nuts trying to push their progressive agenda. If Iran does somehting stupid on Feb 12 then we are in big trouble with this group of feel good Democrats in office.
Hey FAILk, going to India for cheaper surgery is THE FREE MARKET IN ACTION. They don't have the government inflating the price, and this includes such noteworthy Ponzi schemes as Medicare and Medicaid. Those programs INCREASE the cost of health care. GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT INCREASES COSTS AND DECREASES QUALITY. But I can go to India and get a US-educated doctor and recoup from the surgery in a world-class hotel for less than what it's costing here. Someone in Britain can and probably do, do the same thing, but they are paying out of their asses for socialized health care, and that means they will be paying twice just for their care! ROFLMAO ... FAILk wants to institute the same program here!
So yes, FAILk, I DID read what you wrote dumbass. Did you read what I wrote?!?! I didn't think so. Or, if you did your feeble mind refuses to allow you to comprehend.
He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
Though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on. There are three ways in which a ruler can bring misfortune upon his army: By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey; This is called hobbling the army. By attempting to govern an army in the same way as he administers a kingdom, being ignorant of the conditions which obtain in an army; This causes restlessness in the soldier's minds. By employing the officers of his army without discrimination, through ignorance of the military principle of adaptation to circumstances. This shakes the confidence of the soldiers.
Chris, tort reform doesn't solve anything cost wise and it will significantly affect people who are legitimately damaged in the system from getting justice from the party that harms them.
So, it solves nothing and allowing the system to remain the way it is is unsustainable financially.
Remember how concerned Democrats have been during the health-care system overhaul debate at eliminating unnecessary costs? They had an opportunity to save $54 billion over the next ten years from the deficit by enacting tort-reform laws that removes the financial incentive from defensive medicine and protects providers through common-sense limitations on damages, such as those already in place in California and a handful of other states. Jen Rubin at Commentary notices that Nancy Pelosi’s bill does actually allow for tort reform on pages 1431-1433 of the 1990-page behemoth, but only under a curious restriction: Remember Obama’s effort to try a “test” for tort reform? (We don’t actually need a test, since it has worked to lower medical malpractice coverage and help increase access to doctors in states that have tried it.) Well, Pelosi’s bill has an anti-tort-reform measure. On pages 1431-1433 of the 1990 spellbinder, there is a financial incentive for states to try “alternative medical liability laws.” But look — you don’t get the incentive if you have a law that would “limit attorneys’ fees or impose caps on damages.” Jazz Shaw has the explicit language found in Section 2531, emphasis his and mine: (4) CONTENTS OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICAL LIABILITY LAW. – The contents of an alternative liability law are in accordance with this paragraph if - (A) the litigation alternatives contined in the law consist of certificate of merit, early offer, or both; and (B) the law does not limit attorneys’ fees or impose caps on damages. Let’s by all means have the kind of tort “reform” that does nothing to limit damages or curtail attorneys’ fees. What kind of “reform” would that entail? Well, it basically means that the trial lawyers get to write the tort-”reform” laws … which means that we’ll be lucky to keep the status quo, let alone save $54 billion off of the deficit, according to the CBO. No one should be the least bit surprised that the same Democratic Party that takes in over 80% of political donations from trial lawyers has attempted to kneecap tort-reform pilot programs in ObamaCare. It’s about as surprising as Barack Obama putting Kathleen Sebelius in charge of these pilot programs in the first place — the same Kathleen Sebelius who represented trial lawyers in their lobbying group before becoming governor of Kansas. Maybe they should just call themselves the Ambulance Chasers Party and be done with it.
Bruce, all the experts say tort reform would save us $54 billion. Where do you get your lies from? My truth is from the CBO. Get your facts right, would you? You no longer are a credible blogger. I stopped listening to you and you become less then nothing when you lie about everything, all the time.
You comments about Christians have tagged you as a bigot. I used to listen to you and sometimes agreed. But no more. I will no longer look at your post comments or blog. That is no ones fault but your own. Try telling the truth and then maybe people will listen. You lost me for good.
The health economists and independent legal experts who study the issue, however, don’t believe that’s true. They say that malpractice liability costs are a small fraction of the spiraling costs of the U.S. health care system, and that the medical errors that malpractice liability tries to prevent are themselves a huge cost– both to the injured patients and to the health care system as a whole.
“It’s really just a distraction,” said Tom Baker, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School and author of “The Medical Malpractice Myth.” “If you were to eliminate medical malpractice liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe we’d be talking about 1.5 percent of health care costs. So we’re not talking about real money. It’s small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care.”
Annual jury awards and legal settlements involving doctors amounts to “a drop in the bucket” in a country that spends $2.3 trillion annually on health care, Amitabh Chandra, another Harvard University economist, recently told Bloomberg News. Chandra estimated the cost of jury awards at about $12 per person in the U.S., or about $3.6 billion. Insurer WellPoint Inc. has also said that liability awards are not what’s driving premiums.
Bruce I believe the CBO before I believe some op-ed from you. Have you ever heard,"Every drop counts"? Why not just add it to the Reform bill? Are you afaid it's a Trogin horse or something? Why wont the Democrats give the people and the Republicans this bone if it doesn't matter or if it's just a drop in the bucket? Stop making excuses and stop giving BS op-eds as being of more value then the CBO. You have been cought in a lot of lies Bruce. And now with this "Bigotgate" hanging over you and Raham Emanuel you can't afford to keep lieing. Bruce would you kill a baby for no other reason other then it is different,Down syndrome? Do you agree with the genocidal tendancies of the progressive left when it comes to the abortion of Down babies?
Read what Sue posted JoeC. It shows you how bigoted Bruce and his friend JayNey are. One hates Jews the other hates Christians. And Joe we will put you down as a Christian bigot. Just look at all your bigoted posts.
Joe it looks like the Republicans are coming back from your poll. I can't believe the Republicans came back that fast. The Independants are becoming Republicans. Good job one and all.
Joey, I see you are recycling old-assed polls. Nobody cares. Did you see the one that shows that Massachusetts is a bright-blue state? Guess what ass-puppet, they just elected a Republican Senator, in Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy's old seat. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA what a bunch of maroons!! LOL
How refreshing to see that FAILk wants to keep that lawyer money running in to people like John Edwards and Gary Peters. Bunch of dirty corrupt politicians. FAILk, don't you know that is how Edwards got his money, he's a damn dirty ambulance chaser. That's why the Hypocrats don't want tort reform. FAILk, either through stupidity or kool-aid drinking, doesn't want to face the facts that lawyers and Big Insurance own the Hypocrats that are writing this government takeover of health care legislation.
Why so angry JoeC? The truth hurts and you are getting a lot of truth about the Democrat party and the progressive/liberal agenda. Hey we were angry when the Republicans started going to the left. We gave Bush and the Republicans some bad poll numbers and many Americans didn't vote for a Democrats as much as they voted against the Republicans. The Republican party is pulling to the right hard. The Republicans know that the conservatives are a large silent majority and we are standing up for what is right.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA ... poor ANGRY JOEY. Didn't learn a new word Joey, didn't steal it like you or Bruce either. See, I have something called "imagination" so I COINED a new word. Like a typical LIEberal Hypocrat though, I'm sure you and FAILk will be stealing it in no time! BWAAAHAHAHAHA ... or maybe you will have to get a law passed saying that whatever a creative sort like me comes up with, I have to share with you poor pathetic losers who have no creativity. It's the Hypocrat Way! ROFLMAO
Oooooohhhh ... look at poor sensitive Joey, concerned about me saying .... ass! LOL ... Joey, did you know they can say ass on tv and radio! But they sure can't say f**ker like you did, classy guy! Nice though to see how much attention you give every little word I say. That's quite an obsession there Joey. In fact, you always start every conversation we have in the majority of cases. I'm just sitting here commenting away when you start complaining about what I say. Maybe you should seek counseling when you get soooooo ANGRY at the opinion of somebody you don't even know. You're MENTAL. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Well Joey I will try to clean it up for your sensitive little ears and eyes. Pool little asshole Joey! :0) BWAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
John, you've been my prison bitch from day one, so don't worry about my ears. They can handle it. I love how hypocritical you are thats all. You chastise me for my langauge and then go and curse all over the place. Staying Classy john.
Do you think i give a fuck if you can say it on fucking tv. Is that your fucking excuse? What a dumbfuck you are. Fucking hypocrite.
Disgusting, you think I'm your prison bitch? You all masturbating to me Joey?!? You're FILTHY. I don't care one bit about your language Joey, YOU are the one who brought up ME swearing! BWAAAHAHAAHA. WHERE am I cursing Joey?!?! LOL Once again you are allllll concerned about me swearing when you drop all these f-bombs. We can all see you are just trying to deflect and straw-man like a mother-f**ker Joey. When you have nothing to say, start complaining about what other's say, is that part of Alinsky's rules?
I bleep out my cursing, and look at you swearing like a drunk sailor. Pride of the Joey C household you must be!
Here hypocrite Joey, here is where you brought up ME swearing. I could give a crap less about what you say, you're a damn idiot anyway!
Joey SAID "Hey, what is that john swearing again. the classy fucker cursing. Taking the high road ain't ya, boy?"
Go F**K yourself Joey! BWAAAHAHAHAHA ... and stop thinking of me in your homosexual way you disgusting loser.
Oh, this is rich! Thought you might enjoy.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_fat_lady_sings_for_keith_o.html
Great find Paul. BSNBS oops I mean MSNBC is down 45% while Fox News is up over 55%. It looks like Bruce and his ilk backed the wrong lieing horse. Maybe moveon.org need boycott Keiff Olbertmann it worked for Glenn Becks ratings. Bwaaahahahahhahaa. These libs world is crashing to an end. But it's "faux news" fault. Bwaaahahahaha. Olbortionmann spends most of his time talking about Beck and Fox News. You couldn't buy that kind of advertising. Maddcow does the same thing and she will see the same fate. Who want to see an angry lesbian with no sense of humor every day? I mean other then Bruce?
ReplyDeleteA Canadian Premier is coming to the U.S. for heart surgery. A Premier is like a Governor.
ReplyDeleteWe keep hearing how terrible and awful the American health care system is compared to the Canadian one. So why is he coming here?
Could you explain why he is coming here for heart surgery Bruce?
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's proposed budget, stuffed with initiatives to spark jobs and the economy, is getting an early test with lawmakers weary of record deficits, wary of his tax ideas and nervous about winning re-election in November.
ReplyDeleteObama's proposed $5,000-per-job tax credit for companies that hire more workers could come up for a vote in the Senate as early as the end of the week — if senators can work out the details.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and Obama's budget director, Peter Orszag, were to push it during appearances Tuesday before congressional committees to explain the president's $3.8 trillion budget plan. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen also were to be on Capitol Hill to discuss war spending.
Congress rejected the idea of a jobs credit for businesses last year, questioning whether it would work and how to prevent unscrupulous employers from defrauding the government.
Obama also wants to renew some expiring goodies from his stimulus plan last year:
—Another round of $250 bonus payments to Social Security recipients and other retirees.
—Extended jobless benefits and health insurance subsidies for the long-term unemployed.
—Another year of middle-class tax credits of up to $400 for individuals and $800 for couples filing jointly.
But the budget also would impose nearly $1 trillion in higher taxes on couples making more than $250,000 and individuals making more than $200,000 by not renewing tax cuts enacted under former President George W. Bush. Obama would extend Bush-era tax cuts for families and individuals making less.
All told, Obama's tax and spending plan raises more taxes than it cuts, while still posting a record-breaking $1.56 trillion deficit — an amount equal to about 42 cents for every dollar the government is spending.
"It's a budget that reflects the serious challenges facing the country," Obama said. "We're at war. Our economy has lost 7 million jobs over the last two years. And our government is deeply in debt."
Chris, no one has ever disputed the quality of the American medical system.
ReplyDeleteIt's the insurance system and the cost that is the problem. I have said that since day one, but you don't listen.
It does say Canadas health care is bad though. I have a half brother in Canada and he hates it. He lost a kidney from kidney stones because it took too long to get treatment. If he had the money he would have spent it. But I know Obama would never give us that kind of health care bill. You just have to trust him for a change.
ReplyDelete"But I know Obama would never give us that kind of health care bill. You just have to trust him for a change."
ReplyDeleteRaise your hand if you find this statement to be incredibly naive.
More good info.
ReplyDeletehttp://money.cnn.com/2010/01/31/news/companies/tarp_report/
Maybe Bruce can explain to us why we would want more government control over the economy. Is it because they've done such a great job already?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteRaising my hand but believe you are being very generous with the the description.
I thought you would all like to see the kind of bigots Jay-Ney and Bruce are. One is a Jew basher the other a Christian Basher. How could anyone listen to these bigots? I'm sure they are both racist too. Bruce Fealk said...
ReplyDeleteJay-Ney, I rejected one of your comments due to its offenive nature. Just so you know, I was raised Jewish, I've never been a Republican.
That was about as offensive a comment as I've seen in a long time and I won't tolerate that kind of anti-semitism on my blog.
February 2, 2010 2:14 AM
Jay-Ney said...
Sorry Bruce I didn't know. I used to be a christian and you have said almost the same things about them. You blame christians and I blame jews. What is the difference? It didn't bother me in the least and it shouldn't bother you. I wont do it again. Are we good?
February 2, 2010 7:36 AM
Bruce Fealk said...
Jay-Ney, I don't think I referred to f'ing Christians.
Plus you made a generalization about all Jews being bankers and running the country's banks. That is a stereotype. Christians actually do wield political power and have taken control of the Republican party.
We're good.
Paul, the reason, in my view, is that there wasn't enough regulation and oversight for TARP from the beginning.
ReplyDeleteSecond, Paul, TARP was a REPUBLICAN PROGRAM FROM GEORGE W. BUSH. Democrats made it better, but it was truly an emergency program. Henry Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury, warned the world economy was on the verge of absolute collapse without an immediate infusion of cash.
The banks, private industry, have taken our money and used it to give out big bonuses, instead of loaning the money to businesses that need capital.
That's not the government's fault.
If anything, Paul, you should be joining the Democrats' call for more regulation over the banking industry. The free market is not working, except for those at the top.
Sue, It is really of no surprise but thanks for showcasing the hypocrisy of the left.
ReplyDeleteThe one thing I give credit to B. Hussein for is bringing to light the absolute racist, bigoted, two-faced, lieing group of low-lifes that they are.
Now there is even more evidence of a money making scam engineered by the "progressives". It's this "Climategate". The Democrats made this crisis out of a house of cards. It has been proven to be a fake crisis manufactured buy some progressive Democrats. Put Cap-N-Trade to rest until we get some real evidence of global warming or global cooling. This proves how far these Democrats are willing to go to get more power away from the people.
ReplyDeleteOoops there goes another-rubber-tree-plant,,
ReplyDeleteLooks as though the libs are even losing the gays;
h/t http://keeperofoddknowledge.blogspot.com/
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/27/guaranteed-to-piss-tons-of-people-off-today-we-now-want-every-last-democrat-in-elected-office-to-lose-in-2010/
JayNey and Bruce you are both sick people. The amount of religious bigotry from you two makes me see what the progressive agenda really is. I can't believe Bruce gets mad at JN and then does the same exact thing about another religion. Bruce, why do you hate Christians so much? It sounds to me like Bruce thinks the Christian Republicans are the enemy. JayNey, why do you hate the Jewish so much? You two are the scariest people I have ever known. You are both no different then the KKK or Nazis. Will you people please wake up to who these people are and what they hate?
ReplyDeleteYou can't make this stuff up.
ReplyDelete"Paul, the reason, in my view, is that there wasn't enough regulation and oversight for TARP from the beginning." Exactly, a failure by government, my exact point. They shoiuld never have done it, but once they did, they weren't able to control it.
"Second, Paul, TARP was a REPUBLICAN PROGRAM FROM GEORGE W. BUSH. Democrats made it better, but it was truly an emergency...."
Why do you insist on putting everything in your partisan box? I said in my original post, "why would we want more GOVERNMENT control of our economy?" That includes both repubs and democrats.
"That's not the government's fault." Yes, it is! They gave them the money and placed no rules/regulations on the program i.e. government failure.
"If anything, Paul, you should be joining the Democrats' call for more regulation over the banking industry. The free market is not working, except for those at the top."
Wake up Bruce! You can't have a "free market" when the government continues to regulate, obstruct and legislation our economy. More regulation is not going to cure what ails our economy. It will improve when our government gets out of the way and let's it happen. That includes democrats, republicans, independents, liberals, conservatives, moderates, progressives and any other label you place on the idiots in Washington.
FAILk and Jay-Ney, I wish they were the exception to the rule, but their bigoted ways ARE THE RULE in the Hypocrat Party. What a bunch of low-lifes. FAILk, did you ever stop to think that maybe there are some Christian Hypocrats and LIEberals?!?! You two are just opposite sides of the same coin. I bet you two would have a good time toasting marshmallows at a cross-burning party.
ReplyDeleteChristopher -
ReplyDeleteThis made me laugh out loud, thanks!
"Paul,
Raising my hand but believe you are being very generous with the the description."
I second that!!! LOL
FAILk says that America has a great health care system, and then says he wants to fix that by having the government take over so it can be like the Canadian system. What a, forgive my language Chris, dumbass FAILk is!! ROFLMAO!!
ReplyDeleteYou're a total idiot FAILk. Government intrusion is the reason health care costs so much. MORE government intrusion will just push us closer to the Canadian/British EPIC FAIL systems. Total government intrusion will give us those systems. You're dumb as a stump. I don't know how you can generate enough brain power to keep your organs functioning.
Sincerely,
John
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA
I hate the hypocrisy of some Christians, a lot of the ones that hang out here. CINO, Christians in Name Only, that don't give a damn about their fellow man. The ones that advocate more war, abolishing civil and human rights and hate gay people and would advocate killing them.
ReplyDeleteI could go on and on.
John, you didn't read what I said, idiot. I said America has a great medical system. We have a lousy health care non-system with the private insurance companies coming between people and their doctors.
ReplyDeleteWe have some of the best technology and the best doctors in the world.
That said, too many people can't afford to access the care they need.
One has nothing to do with the other. Just because we have great doctors, hospitals and medical schools, none of that helps if such a large number of our citizens can't get the care they need because of money.
Paul, you can have a reasonably regulated free market. We need regulation to keep the greedy bastards on Wall Street from screwing us again.
Most Republicans Think Obama is a Socialist
ReplyDeleteA new Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll of Republicans finds that 63% believe that President Obama is a socialist, compared to 21% who say he is not and 16% that are not sure.
The survey also found that 53% believe that Sarah Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama, with 14% who believe Obama is more qualified and 33% who said they were not sure.
Read more: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/02/02/most_republicans_think_obama_is_a_socialist.html#ixzz0eOyudXuF
"We have some of the best technology and the best doctors in the world".
ReplyDeleteGuess who does not? Yep socialized systems such as Canada and Britain. What do think will happen to those companies? I will tell you,they will move overseas most likely to India.
Boozman Way Ahead of Lincoln in Arkansas
ReplyDeleteA new Public Policy Polling survey in Arkansas finds Rep. John Boozman (R) leading Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D) by a shockingly wide margin, 56% to 33%.
"Lincoln's approval rating has sunk to just 27%, with 62% of voters in the state disapproving of her. She's at a middling 51% even within her own party and just 17% of independents and 9% of Republicans are happy with how she's doing."
Read more: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/02/02/boozman_way_ahead_of_lincoln_in_arkansas.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Taegan+Goddard%27s+Political+Wire%29#ixzz0eP0mNvHu
Christopher, are you actually bragging about those results? I'm assuming you are. That poll just shows how crazy Republicans and Teabaggers are even crazier, since they weren't included in the poll.
ReplyDeleteChristopher, a lot of American are going overseas to have surgery done in India and other countries because they can get it done cheaper. It's called medical tourism. What does that say to you Christopher?
"Paul, you can have a reasonably regulated free market. We need regulation to keep the greedy bastards on Wall Street from screwing us again." Try again Bruce.
ReplyDeleteA free market is, well, FREE! The minute you put regulations on it, it is no longer free. What you're talking about is a "Mixed Economy". If you are going to be part of the debate, then use the proper terms. And please explain, what is the proper amount of regulations and who gets to decide?
Here's a web site dedicated to medical tourism all over the world. Americans are traveling abroad to save money on their medical procedures.
ReplyDeletehttp://medicaltourism.com/procedures/procedures.php?lang=en
You guys that say America has the best system in the world never talk about the Americans that are going overseas due to cost.
Bruce I'm getting sick of your bitry towards Christians. As John said it best you are two sides of the same coin when it comes to being a bigot. You are just now saying it's the CINO's you are talking about. But your many posts that bash Christians is getting out of control bigotry.
ReplyDeleteBruce why wont the Democrats put in TORT reform in the health care reform bill? What would it hurt to have TORT reform put into the bill? The Democrats talk about partisanship until it comes to doing it. There are no talking points. This is what the people want and why wont the Democrats give us TORT REFORM in this bill?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ReplyDeleteHow does taking more money from the rich fat cats on Wall Street help we the people? How does it help the middle class? How does it creat jobs? How does it divide the American people into a class system???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ReplyDeleteChristopher, great find on those polls. It must make the libs heads spine knowing that Palin has a higher approval then Obama. Know I see why the libs are going nuts trying to push their progressive agenda. If Iran does somehting stupid on Feb 12 then we are in big trouble with this group of feel good Democrats in office.
ReplyDeleteHey FAILk, going to India for cheaper surgery is THE FREE MARKET IN ACTION. They don't have the government inflating the price, and this includes such noteworthy Ponzi schemes as Medicare and Medicaid. Those programs INCREASE the cost of health care. GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT INCREASES COSTS AND DECREASES QUALITY. But I can go to India and get a US-educated doctor and recoup from the surgery in a world-class hotel for less than what it's costing here. Someone in Britain can and probably do, do the same thing, but they are paying out of their asses for socialized health care, and that means they will be paying twice just for their care! ROFLMAO ... FAILk wants to institute the same program here!
ReplyDeleteSo yes, FAILk, I DID read what you wrote dumbass. Did you read what I wrote?!?! I didn't think so. Or, if you did your feeble mind refuses to allow you to comprehend.
He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
ReplyDeleteThough we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
There are three ways in which a ruler can bring misfortune upon his army: By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey; This is called hobbling the army. By attempting to govern an army in the same way as he administers a kingdom, being ignorant of the conditions which obtain in an army; This causes restlessness in the soldier's minds. By employing the officers of his army without discrimination, through ignorance of the military principle of adaptation to circumstances. This shakes the confidence of the soldiers.
Chris, tort reform doesn't solve anything cost wise and it will significantly affect people who are legitimately damaged in the system from getting justice from the party that harms them.
ReplyDeleteSo, it solves nothing and allowing the system to remain the way it is is unsustainable financially.
Remember how concerned Democrats have been during the health-care system overhaul debate at eliminating unnecessary costs? They had an opportunity to save $54 billion over the next ten years from the deficit by enacting tort-reform laws that removes the financial incentive from defensive medicine and protects providers through common-sense limitations on damages, such as those already in place in California and a handful of other states. Jen Rubin at Commentary notices that Nancy Pelosi’s bill does actually allow for tort reform on pages 1431-1433 of the 1990-page behemoth, but only under a curious restriction:
ReplyDeleteRemember Obama’s effort to try a “test” for tort reform? (We don’t actually need a test, since it has worked to lower medical malpractice coverage and help increase access to doctors in states that have tried it.) Well, Pelosi’s bill has an anti-tort-reform measure. On pages 1431-1433 of the 1990 spellbinder, there is a financial incentive for states to try “alternative medical liability laws.” But look — you don’t get the incentive if you have a law that would “limit attorneys’ fees or impose caps on damages.”
Jazz Shaw has the explicit language found in Section 2531, emphasis his and mine:
(4) CONTENTS OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICAL LIABILITY LAW. – The contents of an alternative liability law are in accordance with this paragraph if -
(A) the litigation alternatives contined in the law consist of certificate of merit, early offer, or both; and
(B) the law does not limit attorneys’ fees or impose caps on damages.
Let’s by all means have the kind of tort “reform” that does nothing to limit damages or curtail attorneys’ fees. What kind of “reform” would that entail? Well, it basically means that the trial lawyers get to write the tort-”reform” laws … which means that we’ll be lucky to keep the status quo, let alone save $54 billion off of the deficit, according to the CBO.
No one should be the least bit surprised that the same Democratic Party that takes in over 80% of political donations from trial lawyers has attempted to kneecap tort-reform pilot programs in ObamaCare. It’s about as surprising as Barack Obama putting Kathleen Sebelius in charge of these pilot programs in the first place — the same Kathleen Sebelius who represented trial lawyers in their lobbying group before becoming governor of Kansas. Maybe they should just call themselves the Ambulance Chasers Party and be done with it.
Bruce, all the experts say tort reform would save us $54 billion. Where do you get your lies from? My truth is from the CBO. Get your facts right, would you? You no longer are a credible blogger. I stopped listening to you and you become less then nothing when you lie about everything, all the time.
You comments about Christians have tagged you as a bigot. I used to listen to you and sometimes agreed. But no more. I will no longer look at your post comments or blog. That is no ones fault but your own. Try telling the truth and then maybe people will listen. You lost me for good.
ReplyDeleteHere's an article that lays it our really. I have no respect for anyone that posts anonymously.
ReplyDeleteTort reform is a drop in the bucket
The health economists and independent legal experts who study the issue, however, don’t believe that’s true. They say that malpractice liability costs are a small fraction of the spiraling costs of the U.S. health care system, and that the medical errors that malpractice liability tries to prevent are themselves a huge cost– both to the injured patients and to the health care system as a whole.
“It’s really just a distraction,” said Tom Baker, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School and author of “The Medical Malpractice Myth.” “If you were to eliminate medical malpractice liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe we’d be talking about 1.5 percent of health care costs. So we’re not talking about real money. It’s small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care.”
Annual jury awards and legal settlements involving doctors amounts to “a drop in the bucket” in a country that spends $2.3 trillion annually on health care, Amitabh Chandra, another Harvard University economist, recently told Bloomberg News. Chandra estimated the cost of jury awards at about $12 per person in the U.S., or about $3.6 billion. Insurer WellPoint Inc. has also said that liability awards are not what’s driving premiums.
Bruce I believe the CBO before I believe some op-ed from you. Have you ever heard,"Every drop counts"? Why not just add it to the Reform bill? Are you afaid it's a Trogin horse or something? Why wont the Democrats give the people and the Republicans this bone if it doesn't matter or if it's just a drop in the bucket? Stop making excuses and stop giving BS op-eds as being of more value then the CBO. You have been cought in a lot of lies Bruce. And now with this "Bigotgate" hanging over you and Raham Emanuel you can't afford to keep lieing. Bruce would you kill a baby for no other reason other then it is different,Down syndrome? Do you agree with the genocidal tendancies of the progressive left when it comes to the abortion of Down babies?
ReplyDeleteChristian bigotry....lmao
ReplyDeleteThat is the quintessential right always playing the victim.
Fox News poll
ReplyDelete16. What about if the candidates were:
Barack Obama 55% Sarah Palin 31%
Democrats 89% 5%
Republicans 17% 68%
Independents 56% 24%
POLITICAL IDENTIFICATION: When you think about politics, do you think of
yourself as a Democrat or a Republican?
Democrat Republican (Independent)
39% 34% 20%
Wow, more people would vote for Obama than Palin in 2012 and more people consider themselves democrats.
Bet it pisses ya off to see Faux News put out that poll.....
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/012110_poll.pdf
Read what Sue posted JoeC. It shows you how bigoted Bruce and his friend JayNey are. One hates Jews the other hates Christians. And Joe we will put you down as a Christian bigot. Just look at all your bigoted posts.
ReplyDeleteJoe it looks like the Republicans are coming back from your poll. I can't believe the Republicans came back that fast. The Independants are becoming Republicans. Good job one and all.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans have changed for the better. While the Democrats have changed for the worse. What say you?
ReplyDeleteJoey, I see you are recycling old-assed polls. Nobody cares. Did you see the one that shows that Massachusetts is a bright-blue state? Guess what ass-puppet, they just elected a Republican Senator, in Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy's old seat. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA what a bunch of maroons!! LOL
ReplyDeleteHow refreshing to see that FAILk wants to keep that lawyer money running in to people like John Edwards and Gary Peters. Bunch of dirty corrupt politicians. FAILk, don't you know that is how Edwards got his money, he's a damn dirty ambulance chaser. That's why the Hypocrats don't want tort reform. FAILk, either through stupidity or kool-aid drinking, doesn't want to face the facts that lawyers and Big Insurance own the Hypocrats that are writing this government takeover of health care legislation.
ReplyDeleteAss-puppet...did ya learn a new word. Lets hear it for John, the classy guy. He learned a new word.
ReplyDeleteHey, what is that john swearing again. the classy fucker cursing. Taking the high road ain't ya, boy?
Why so angry JoeC? The truth hurts and you are getting a lot of truth about the Democrat party and the progressive/liberal agenda. Hey we were angry when the Republicans started going to the left. We gave Bush and the Republicans some bad poll numbers and many Americans didn't vote for a Democrats as much as they voted against the Republicans. The Republican party is pulling to the right hard. The Republicans know that the conservatives are a large silent majority and we are standing up for what is right.
ReplyDeleteBWAAAAHAHAHAHA ... poor ANGRY JOEY. Didn't learn a new word Joey, didn't steal it like you or Bruce either. See, I have something called "imagination" so I COINED a new word. Like a typical LIEberal Hypocrat though, I'm sure you and FAILk will be stealing it in no time! BWAAAHAHAHAHA ... or maybe you will have to get a law passed saying that whatever a creative sort like me comes up with, I have to share with you poor pathetic losers who have no creativity. It's the Hypocrat Way! ROFLMAO
ReplyDeleteOooooohhhh ... look at poor sensitive Joey, concerned about me saying .... ass! LOL ... Joey, did you know they can say ass on tv and radio! But they sure can't say f**ker like you did, classy guy! Nice though to see how much attention you give every little word I say. That's quite an obsession there Joey. In fact, you always start every conversation we have in the majority of cases. I'm just sitting here commenting away when you start complaining about what I say. Maybe you should seek counseling when you get soooooo ANGRY at the opinion of somebody you don't even know. You're MENTAL. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Well Joey I will try to clean it up for your sensitive little ears and eyes. Pool little asshole Joey! :0) BWAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
John, you've been my prison bitch from day one, so don't worry about my ears. They can handle it. I love how hypocritical you are thats all. You chastise me for my langauge and then go and curse all over the place. Staying Classy john.
ReplyDeleteDo you think i give a fuck if you can say it on fucking tv. Is that your fucking excuse? What a dumbfuck you are. Fucking hypocrite.
Disgusting, you think I'm your prison bitch? You all masturbating to me Joey?!? You're FILTHY. I don't care one bit about your language Joey, YOU are the one who brought up ME swearing! BWAAAHAHAAHA. WHERE am I cursing Joey?!?! LOL Once again you are allllll concerned about me swearing when you drop all these f-bombs. We can all see you are just trying to deflect and straw-man like a mother-f**ker Joey. When you have nothing to say, start complaining about what other's say, is that part of Alinsky's rules?
ReplyDeleteI bleep out my cursing, and look at you swearing like a drunk sailor. Pride of the Joey C household you must be!
Here hypocrite Joey, here is where you brought up ME swearing. I could give a crap less about what you say, you're a damn idiot anyway!
Joey SAID "Hey, what is that john swearing again. the classy fucker cursing. Taking the high road ain't ya, boy?"
Go F**K yourself Joey! BWAAAHAHAHAHA ... and stop thinking of me in your homosexual way you disgusting loser.